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BoyLinux
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 Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject: Howto play with your system and not break your bank. |
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This is a good way to play with your system and no break it or the bank.
After installing Xandros install the Kernel Headers and C/C++ packages from XN.
Download the VMWare server http://www.vmware.com/products/free_virtualization.html
Register for a serial number on the download and page and keep it somewhere safe as they do not e-mail it to you.
Once downloaded uncompress the files.
Open an administrator file manager from Applications -> System -> Administrator Tools -> Xandros File Manager (Administrator)
Browse to the directory you just uncompressed (If in your home directory go to All File Systems -> / -> home -> username)
Once in the directory go to Tools -> Open Console Window
run ./vmware-install.pl
Accept all the defaults.
Once installed go to Applications -> System -> VMWare Server Console
Once open select to connect to local host then select to create a new Virtual Machine.
Accept the defaults and for Operating System select Linux - Other Linux 2.6X Kernel
Follow trough with the options you want.
Once complete put your Xandros Installation CD in the drive and select to power on the Virtual Machine.
You can back up the image from /var/lib/vmware/Virtual Machines
Have fun playing.
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XandrosAdminAJ
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Kevin. It gets the point of asking | Code: | What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] |
I looked for the kernal headers and found a number of possible places that might make the install happy, but no go. It says | Code: | The path "//usr/share/doc/dcc-kernal-headers-2.6.18.dcc-smp" is not an existing
directory. |
and similar for other things I put in.
Later: I had another go at it, reinstalled. It may be that if you have not installed the kernal headers you have to logout and back in to complete the install. At least that is what I think fixed it.
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aldube
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Cool; it was always a pain to have to recompile the kernel everytime for applications like VMWare, Parallels, etc... Now we can skip a few steps by only downloading the Kernel Headers and C/C++ packages from XN. 
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pistonpilot
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:53 am Post subject: Why the server? |
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Why do you suggest people install the VMware server? I have VMworkstation 5.5 for both Linux and Windows - why not install workstation for Linux?
I need to get off of Windows - I hate it even though I make my living from it. I want to run Vmware for the programs I have not been able to replace with Linux. I expect that list of programs to get smaller with time. |
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redrum
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:19 am Post subject: |
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I use this method for exactly this purpose.. I have a bunch of virtual Xandros boxes that I can test my packages on.. I have a base 4.0 home system with as few packages as possible installed, a 4.1 pro version with as few packages as possible installed, and a 4.0 SP1 home box freshly patched. It has helped me considerably with figuring out dependencies and such.. I have snapshots of each system, so I can try my packages on each box, make sure they work, and then revert to the original state immediately, readying the machine for another build test.. It is a major time saver.
| pistonpilot wrote: | | Why do you suggest people install the VMware server? |
Mainly because its free 
I suppose after making the virtual machines I could use just the player, but server works fine for what I do.
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pistonpilot
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Ok - it's free. That's the part I don't get. What's the advantage or disadvantage to running workstation vs server.
I can create VM's in the workstation so why use server? Other than it is free of course. There must be an advantage to using the workstation PAID version, right?
Ok - assuming I use workstation, is the setup same as above? |
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carbon_unit
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Workstation does have some features that are not present in Server. Workstation is a smaller program than server.
Considering the price of Workststion @ $189.00, free is a big deal to those who do not already own it.
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WayneT
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| carbon_unit wrote: | Workstation does have some features that are not present in Server. Workstation is a smaller program than server.
Considering the price of Workststion @ $189.00, free is a big deal to those who do not already own it. |
I use the server to keep an instance of XP running so I can run the TIVO service without having to have a windows box.
<rant> I find it hard to believe that a company like TIVO that uses Linux as it's OS embedded in the appliance does not provide a Linux solution for their server! Terrible! Stupid! Insulting!</rant> |
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BoyLinux
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Workstation can do multiple snapshots so you can back several instances whereas server can only do one snapshot.
Not sure what else is different.
I just posted the VMServer because it is free.
VMWare Workstation 6 will be nice. It will include dual-head support so you can do one guest system on each head.
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pistonpilot
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| Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| Multiple snapshots are key and very necessary. Sometimes you don't know there is a problem and it is nice to go back to several versions when available. |
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aldube
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| Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| pistonpilot wrote: | | Multiple snapshots are key and very necessary. Sometimes you don't know there is a problem and it is nice to go back to several versions when available. |
For what kind of PC setup are we talking about here?
I don't need any snapshots for a home PC; perhaps you're talking about a server in which case "very necessary" only applies to that.
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pistonpilot
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| Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| aldube wrote: | | pistonpilot wrote: | | Multiple snapshots are key and very necessary. Sometimes you don't know there is a problem and it is nice to go back to several versions when available. |
For what kind of PC setup are we talking about here?
I don't need any snapshots for a home PC; perhaps you're talking about a server in which case "very necessary" only applies to that. |
Of course you do. You don't know when a system goes bad, or cannot be reversed. Having more than one point is very helpful. |
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aldube
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| Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| pistonpilot wrote: | | Of course you do. You don't know when a system goes bad, or cannot be reversed. Having more than one point is very helpful. |
I'm not about to pay $189.99 for a feature I don't need; TAR, GZIP, & BZIP2 are very efficient in creating backups of the .vmdk & .vmx files; snapshots are just second rate backups that can eventually fail and take up a lot of hard drive space in the meantime for nothing. 
An intelligently partitioned VM (with separate / & /home as drives/.vmdk files) will produce superior results when creating compressed backups of the .vmdk files.
If we're talking about Micro$oft Windows, then again multiple snapshot are useless, as when M$ Windows decides to go on the frits (registry or otherwise) it's usually requires a fresh install in order to eradicate all problems, which could be subsistuted with a compressed backup copy of when it was 1st installed, service packed patched, updated, & activated.
Most Xandros users don't need to spend $189.99 and can easily go without an overrated snapshot feature, because backing-up VMWare folders or .vmdk files can also be easily done even from just Xandros File Manager - Create TGZ Archive. 
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pohutukawa
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I've been running VMware Workstation 6 beta, and have successfully installed various flavors of Linux distros, the most recent of which is Xandros v3 (something like Open Distribution Version).
Aside from the debate of using deb vs rpm packages, I successfully ran the rpm installer. Afterward, I ran vmware-config-tools.pl and got some errors about where the gcc files were.
VMware forum said I needed to ensure that C compilers were present and perfectly matched the kernal. (With all the other Linux distros, never had this issue.)
In THIS (Xandros) forum's message thread, it says:
After installing Xandros install the Kernel Headers and C/C++ packages from XN.
OK...my Dumb Question of the Day is: What and where is XN, please?
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aldube
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| pohutukawa wrote: | In THIS (Xandros) forum's message thread, it says:
After installing Xandros install the Kernel Headers and C/C++ packages from XN.
OK...my Dumb Question of the Day is: What and where is XN, please?
Thank you. |
XN is an abbreviation for Xandros Networks and it's on your desktop and in the launch menu.
Most Xandros Users don't use the C/C++ packages, so therefore it's not installed by default.
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