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| Time To Switch Distros - What's Your Next Distro? |
| PCLinuxOS 2007 |
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34% |
[ 35 ] |
| Gentoo |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Fedora |
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4% |
[ 5 ] |
| Mandriva |
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5% |
[ 6 ] |
| Debian |
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7% |
[ 8 ] |
| Slackware |
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1% |
[ 2 ] |
| Ubuntu |
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22% |
[ 23 ] |
| SuSE |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Linspire |
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2% |
[ 3 ] |
| Other |
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18% |
[ 19 ] |
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blayne Xandrosianding

Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 650 Location: Lexington Kentucky USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: Xandros = Microsoft, Which Linux To Use Now? |
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Now that Microsoft has crawled into bed with Xandros, the Xandros customers will be crawling out of that bed and looking for another love interest. What's your next distro and why?
Buh bye! Buh bye!
 _________________ See the funny video The Death Of Xandros.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8TjLIYxP1A
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PAn Xplorer
Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 113
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Mepis 6.5 rocks, if you are advanced then Debian.
My history: Mandrake, Redhat, Libranet, Kanotix, still in use are latest Mepis and Debian stable. I don't like the fact that Mepis is Ubuntu based, but is dead easy to install. Debian is not without glitches but is simple enough that even I can install it.
I think that Debian will be around when a lot of today's wonders are history. |
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blayne Xandrosianding

Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 650 Location: Lexington Kentucky USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I had lost interest in the distro wars because I was very happy with Xandros, but now I'm forced to change distros. I had seen Ubuntu recently. A friend was evaluating it. He's still using Windows but I liked Ubuntu. It was sort of my front runner candidate before doing today's research. I'm just getting started but PCLinuxOS 2007 looks nice from the first glance. It has a live CD so you can try it before installing it, which is a great feature. I'm going to downlod it now. I'll let you other MSXandros refugees know what I think, at least until this thread is deleted.
The PCLinuxOS website:
http://www.pclinuxos.com
Installation instructions, including the link to the CD image download:
http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_pclinuxos_2007
Other distro suggestions welcome! I'm just getting started in my research. I'm placing a premium on a NON-COMMERCIAL distro this time because it seems less likely to be corrupted by the evil influence.
I'm sick at having to change distros after a long and happy run with Xandros, but looking forward to getting on with my PC life.
I feel like I've been married for four years and was shocked to learn my wife was cheating on me.
 _________________ See the funny video The Death Of Xandros.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8TjLIYxP1A
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lpbbear Xendrosian

Joined: 19 Nov 2002 Posts: 1794
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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I have experiemented with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, PCLinuxOS, Saybayon, Mepis, and several others. Most of them are quite good. If this "deal" is true my choice will likely be Kubuntu or PCLinuxOS. Both are well done with a few flaws here and there but no more flaws than we have all seen in Xandros itself. The one thing I have found much more to my liking is the frequency and number of software applications and updates available for these distributions.
Xandros has never bitten the bullet in this area and Xandros users have always suffered from a lack of timely updates and the limited number of available applications in the Xandros Networks. In this area Linspire made the smart move by aligning with the Ubuntu repositories a while back.
I have been using Kubuntu 6.10 for a while on the system I use to create the BTMappack and have had zero problems with it.
Xandros does have some advantages in areas such as installer and few other items but none so important that I would choose to stay with Xandros after such a disgusting move like "partnering" with Microsoft. |
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warlockomega Xandrosian

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 183
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: Freespire/Kubuntu |
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I have already pulled Xandros off my laptop and installed Kubuntu 6.06lts.
No problems and it runs just as good. As for my main machine Im thinking Freespire when it comes out. That or PCLinux 2007.
As for my work systems, well lets just say that as of this moment PCLinux is being tested to replace Xandros. Im really disappointed in Xandros for this. I thought I had found a distro to believe in and trust. Guess I was wrong.
Warlock  _________________ Just My 2 cents, Yes.. I can make change..
Registered Linux user number 404738
My World, My Choice, My PCLinux 2007 |
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pepisolo Xplorer
Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 23
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Definitely, PCLinuxOS for me, I'm currently using an old test release of it, but it works like a dream. PCLinuxOS is as easy to use as Xandros and the boot times are exceptional. I've also been impressed with the repository, it doesn't have the depth of packages that Xandros does, but the packages it does have are always really up to date. It is easily the best distro I have tried. |
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thompson Xplorer
Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 114 Location: Winston-Salem, NC US
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, well. It was nice while it lasted. I run Kubuntu on all but one of our systems, but I had been recommending Xandros to Linux newbies and small businesses. No more.
The one system I did have running Xandros is running the Kubuntu installer as I write this, and I won't be recommending Xandros to anyone any longer. _________________ Robert Bruce Thompson
xandros (at) ttgnet dot com |
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Soren_Helskov Xplorer
Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 16 Location: Denmark /Western Europe
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Bye bye Xandros.
How stupid can you be!!!
By the way. Ubuntu 7.04 on my Desktop and Pclinuxos on my Laptop _________________ Best Regards
Søren Helskov
Linux user: 417879
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blayne Xandrosianding

Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 650 Location: Lexington Kentucky USA
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aldube Xandrosianschwing
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 2332 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sticking with Xandros, as the Xandros & Micro$oft Agreement hasn't created any bad apples yet!
If the potential patent war actually worked out in Micro$oft's favor (court cases don't always work out as predicted), Xandros would of probably been one of the first casualties since Xandros is more Windows-like than most other Linux distros.
It's way too soon to predict whether this is a good or bad move made by Xandros!
I'm sure there will be a lot of Linux radicals TROLL-ing around the Xandros forums bad mouthing Xandros every opportunity they get; I however like to take a wait and see appoach in this particular situation.  _________________ Linux simply works for me...
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tony Xplorer
Joined: 13 Nov 2002 Posts: 110 Location: Pasadena, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: I won't bad mouth Xandros |
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But, do you really think Micro$oft wants to extend any help to any Linux Co? If you think so, all you have to look at is M$'s past history. It's just a matter of time before M$ start killing these distros.
This makes me sick, and personally, I will not purchase Xandros any longer. Note that I am one of the ones that started with Corel Linux and stayed with it because of the great Linux product. But, this move is too much for me to keep me here.
Later Xandros...
What really sucks, is that this forum is the best of all Linux forums I ever encountered. I can almost always solve my problem here, and the response is fast. I usually find the solution the same day I post an issue. I hope I can find good folks like these at the Ubuntu forum...
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Soren_Helskov Xplorer
Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 16 Location: Denmark /Western Europe
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| aldube wrote: | I'm sticking with Xandros, as the Xandros & Micro$oft Agreement hasn't created any bad apples yet!
If the potential patent war actually worked out in Micro$oft's favor (court cases don't always work out as predicted), Xandros would of probably been one of the first casualties since Xandros is more Windows-like than most other Linux distros.
It's way too soon to predict whether this is a good or bad move made by Xandros!
I'm sure there will be a lot of Linux radicals TROLL-ing around the Xandros forums bad mouthing Xandros every opportunity they get; I however like to take a wait and see appoach in this particular situation.  |
M$ will never win this war. The patents is useless i europe. Or actually in the world exept the states. _________________ Best Regards
Søren Helskov
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aldube Xandrosianschwing
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 2332 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: I won't bad mouth Xandros |
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| tony wrote: | | But, do you really think Micro$oft wants to extend any help to any Linux Co? If you think so, all you have to look at is M$'s past history. It's just a matter of time before M$ start killing these distros. |
And how is Micro$oft going to accomplish that?
Perhaps you should explain the detailed legal-ise that shows how Micro$oft is going to shut-down Xandros...
The agreement made between Xandros & Micro$oft doesn't seems to have any loopholes to Xandros' detriment.  _________________ Linux simply works for me...
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Set Xandrosianding

Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 858
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Guess this is my last post in this forum. I don't want to spend time on a distro that acknowledges MS patent FUD as a real thing. Will do some distro surfing again. Probably learn how to tweak Kubuntu.
Be well everyone. Who knows. I might come back at another time.
//Set _________________ Set has left this forum. |
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lpbbear Xendrosian

Joined: 19 Nov 2002 Posts: 1794
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: I won't bad mouth Xandros |
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| aldube wrote: | | tony wrote: | | But, do you really think Micro$oft wants to extend any help to any Linux Co? If you think so, all you have to look at is M$'s past history. It's just a matter of time before M$ start killing these distros. |
And how is Micro$oft going to accomplish that?
Perhaps you should explain the detailed legal-ise that shows how Micro$oft is going to shut-down Xandros...
The agreement made between Xandros & Micro$oft doesn't seems to have any loopholes to Xandros' detriment.  |
How is Microsoft going to accomplish that????
1. First off Microsoft knows that by Xandros even signing anything with Microsoft it will drive away the very people that support Xandros the most. Take a look at my join date. Its 2002 and I also was a Corel Linux user before that. I HATE EVERYTHING MICROSOFT STANDS FOR and for good reason.
2. By signing this agreement or whatever the heck it is Microsoft knows they will be splitting Xandros away from the core Linux community. Linux software developers will NOT want to support anything to do with Xandros from this point on. We have already seen this happening to Novell. It will only get worse with this latest stupidity.
3. Splitting Xandros away from the core of Linux also fragments Linux as the core developers will steadily move away from Xandros in disgust with this action.
4. This will make the core movement of Linux weaker since Xandros and Suse were the Linux versions that tended to be viewed as the most user friendly distros. Once more Linux will be viewed as an unfriendly operating system for users. You can bet Microsoft will start piling the FUD on as soon as the smoke clears from this.
5. And yes, Xandros will not survive for long and Microsoft intends to kill it off as soon as it can get attention directed elsewhere.
6. Microsoft WILL try and use this as a precedent in some future legal proceedings. ("See your Honor, these Linux companies KNEW they were using our patents! Why, they even signed an agreement with us saying so!)
If Xandros thinks they will be safe in the event of some future legal action by Microsoft then they should ask themselves exactly who is writing the vast majority of software that allows Xandros to even exist. (hint: It ain't Xandros and yer butter ain't being spread by Microsoft)
Anyone who doesn't get this or thinks I am a Linux "radical" is either delusional or ignorant and has spent no time following Microsoft's sordid history.
If Microsoft is truly wanting to be a friend to Linux all they have to do is simply prove it by releasing MS Office, Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player and any of the other many applications they use to ensure their monopoly as Linux native applications. (don't hold your breath)
"Microsoft IS NOT a friend to Linux."
Write that backwards on a piece of paper and stick it to your foreheads so that you are reminded of that fact every time you look in a mirror. |
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