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lix
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: XN down frequently Reply with quote

I continue to get this error when trying to access Xandros Networks this week. I tried at 5:20 CST (USA) & get this:

An error occurred while loading https://xn1.xandros.com/xnv4/browse.php?cID=4005:
Timeout on server
Connection was to xn1.xandros.com at port 443
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try removing "xandros-networks-pkgdata.xml" and "xandros-networks-pkgdata.xml.bak"
located at "/usr/share/xandros-networks" either with "Xandros File Manager" or "console".
Then start Xandros Networks and it automatically creates these files again.

It might help.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lix, you're not on your own here. I've found it very hit and miss recently. When I read your post I fired up XN and and I didn't even get as far as the message "XN needs to download package information. This may take a while on a slow connection". After a little while I closed it down and tried again and this time got lucky. Perhaps there is pressure on the server at weekends?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problems loading archlug persist, despite removing the two files
recommended often around here. I ran apt-get update after
deleting the files.

It ends up saying it has to use old indexes, etc.

Should I just take the archlug repositories out of XN?

More importantly, am I getting good updates without archlug?
It comes back saying my system is up to date, but I'm not
sure now.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the message I mentioned in the evenings (5:00-10:00 p.m.CST/USA) & in the mornings (4:30-5:30 a.m.) & on the weekends. It's been more frequent the last 7 days or so; enough for me to notice, anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the problem is at the Xandros end. I have no issues at all and access XN within the evening time frame you note. There are some fixes for the problem at the computer user's end. You may try this, which usually fixes things.

Open a root console window by clicking Launch > Applications > System > Administrator Tools > Console.

Type the administrator password in the console window and press Enter.

Type
rm /usr/share/xandros-networks/xandros-networks-pkgdata.xml
and press Enter. This removes the list of packages for XN.

Type
apt-get update
and press Enter. This retrieves the list of packages

Type
/etc/init.d/xandros-dvmonitor restart
and press Enter. This turns off and then on XN.

Word of warning: always ensure you only have enabled Xandros sources, i.e., leave out Debian unsupported and other lists of packages unless you know what you're doing.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of us have posted here in this thread that we've taken those measures and have had no change in the result. I don't understand why you'd respond with that old remedy when we've said we've tried it and it made no change, unless you're suggesting we need to do it on a regular basis, or that you're only reading some of the posts in this conversation for some reason.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To jerrybasham about:
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It ends up saying it has to use old indexes, etc.

If you have checked and repositories list is correct, then the
message might depend on that your CD-Drive is enabled in XN.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now this is just weird: XN told me twice that it was getting DNS errors, but it's happily downloading and installing a game anyway as I type.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Problems loading archlug persist, despite removing the two files
recommended often around here. I ran apt-get update after
deleting the files.

It ends up saying it has to use old indexes, etc.

Should I just take the archlug repositories out of XN?

More importantly, am I getting good updates without archlug?
It comes back saying my system is up to date, but I'm not
sure now.

Archlug repositories are totally unsupported,third party repositories. They should *only* be enabled when you want something you know is on them that is not available from the Xandros supported repositories.

As a third party repository, Archlug has experienced problems staying up from time to time, that's what's causing your errors. It is controlled by one of our regular users for his local Linux users group, & he generously makes it available to all Xandros users. Nothing he has in there is a critical update to your Xandros system, so it is only polite to not increase the load on his server every time you fire up XN.

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Some of us have posted here in this thread that we've taken those measures and have had no change in the result. I don't understand why you'd respond with that old remedy when we've said we've tried it and it made no change, unless you're suggesting we need to do it on a regular basis, or that you're only reading some of the posts in this conversation for some reason.

Correction:
Exactly *one* person has posted that they tried that & he actually has a *different* problem than the person who started this thread. While it is appropriate to add your info when your problem is the same as the thread starter, you will get better results by posting *different* problems in a thread of it's own.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Word of warning: always ensure you only have enabled Xandros sources, i.e., leave out Debian unsupported and other lists of packages unless you know what you're doing."

I think I've left mine set to access Debian unsuported after looking for a particular app a couple of weeks ago. Let me go check.....

Yes, I had "debian unsupported" activated. I deactivated it. I'll watch over the next few days & see how it goes. Thanks for the tip.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Monday April 23. I still continue to get intermittent trouble connecting to XN with the same error.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lix. Try the "radical method" again, removing "xandros-networks-pkgdata.xml & bak" located at
"/usr/share/xandros-networks" using "Xandros File Manager" with "Administrator" (root) privilegies.

Then open "Console" with Administrator (root) privilegies and update APT typing "apt-get update".

Lastly start "Xandros Networks" to verify if it helped.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issues with ArchLUG should be resolved shortly.

Apparently, my domain had lapsed, and the OpenSRS registrar diverts the DNS servers for lapsed domains.

This one-time event should not be taken as some sort of pattern or opinion that ArchLUG is not stable. The servers are perfectly stable and operational. It's the DNS and registrar policies that favor domain squatting over servicing existing customers that have caused the instability.

Feel free to put the ArchLUG IP address in your /etc/hosts (it's a static IP) and you will never have this issue again.
Code:
209.16.204.19   uml.archlug.org www.archlug.org archlug.org

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Correction:
Exactly *one* person has posted that they tried that & he actually has a *different* problem than the person who started this thread. While it is appropriate to add your info when your problem is the same as the thread starter, you will get better results by posting *different* problems in a thread of it's own."

Dave


No results from searching. It looks like it's at the domain end
anyway, and not a problem with my cd or my refrigerator.

But Xandros hasn't been on my computer for several weeks now,
anyway, so the whole issue is moot. Smile
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