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phillipchandler
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Xandros Networks Reply with quote

I think its a total rip-off that Xandros 4 open circulation users have to pay up and join the Xandros Networks, just so they can download and install such programs as Scribux, Quanta Plus etc. I can understand games like Quake and Doom etc, but not scribus.
The only reason Im trying Xandros is because its the only distro to auto see my wireless card, and as a newbie I dont have the technical expertise needed for such distros as FC6.
Unless anyone here knows of a good user guide that tell you how to install software via the terminal (apt-get I think) and how to add repos.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also forgot to mention. What makes it worse is that FC6 and Ubuntu have the software in their repos, and even openly tell you how to download / install. IE yum install *****, and its released as FREE anyway, so why is Xandros charging ???
I only hope that FC7 and Ubuntu 7.04 have drivers for my wireless card, if they do them Im gone, otherwise Im stuck with Xandros untill I have £27-£28 to cough up, which Id more-than-likely object to.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi phillipchandler.

And welcome to the friendliest forum on the net! Really!
(sorry woodsmoke for "using" your words, again)

There are some Linux distributions that cost a few bucks and others
that you gets for free. Some are usable while others are not.

Many agrees that Xandros also should be available totally for free.
But without income, who will then pay all workers at Xandros?
And without those, no Xandros!

Anyway, with a little search you will find most applications for free.

Here is reading about repositories:
http://forums.xandros.com/viewtopic.php?p=190631&highlight=#190631
And some download sites:
http://www.agilepros.com/xandrosfun/Home.htm
http://xandros.savagehamsters.com/
http://www.vogelefamily.info/xandros/
http://www.clanfos.net/packages/
http://www.geekconnection.org/

"sources.list" is located at "/etc/apt/" (in case you didnt know)

Did I miss something else? Others can surely fill in more.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi phillipchandler, and Welcome to Xandros, and to the friendliest forums on the web. You will find a lot of good knowledgeable people here who will bend over backwards to help you solve any problems you may encounter. Just remember, they are all volunteers, answering questions and solving problems on their own time, without pay, so treat them nicely. There are a number of repositories and download sites available which are loaded with apps configured specifically for Xandros, which are known to work, and won't break your system. Remember, that while Xandros is based on Debian, it includes a lot of tweaks which make it uniquely Xandros. If you try installing programs from Debian sites which have not been compiled for your particular build of Xandros, you are very likely to hose your system. My favorite site for Xandros downloads is geekydude's Geek Connection site, which is fast becoming a one-stop shopping mall for programs and goodies compiled just for Xandros. Check it out. You'll want to bookmark it for future reference, because new stuff is being added all the time, and as you live and work with Xandros, you will discover things you'd like to have that you may not be aware of today. Be sure you are in the correct section for your version of Xandros OCE, either X3 or X4, as programs built for other versions may not work properly on your version. Geeky's site is here:

http://www.geekconnection.org/downloads.htm

Hope that helps you out. Ben.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phillipchandler wrote:
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I think its a total rip-off that Xandros 4 open circulation users have to pay up and join the Xandros Networks, just so they can download and install such programs as Scribux, Quanta Plus etc. I can understand games like Quake and Doom etc, but not scribus.

Well, Xandros needs to make money, & if they gave everything away how would they continue to put out this OS?

The OCE is offered in the hopes that folks reluctant to pay for a Linux OS without knowing it will work on their hardware will give Xandros a try for free & like it so much they become paying customers. This is not a rip off.

To the best of my knowledge, all of the apps you want are available for free as source code. Nothing is stopping you from setting Xandros up to compile those apps from source. What you are paying for is the convenience of not having to do that. No one's twisting your arm.

Comparing Xandros' business practices to other distros is a waste of time. The for profit ones all have their own ideas about how to make money (Ubuntu wants to sell you support, for instance, & is run by a corporation with deep pockets). The free ones are done by volunteer effort & if as a newbie, you need support, you will run into a serious attitude problem with many of them.

There is no perfect Linux for everyone. Pick the one that works best for you.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Xandros Networks Reply with quote

phillipchandler wrote:
I think its a total rip-off that Xandros 4 open circulation users have to pay up and join the Xandros Networks, just so they can download and install such programs as Scribux, Quanta Plus etc.


I haven't paid anybody any money, and I see Scribus and Quanta in the Xandros repositories. Usually what's in the pay-for repositories might be newer versions or something. I've never used the pay-for repositories at all.

If there's something you really want, and you don't find it available in XN, ask on the forums; either somebody will know where to get it, or somebody might even compile it just for you (happens all the time).

Oh, and welcome to the Xandros Forums, phillipchandler!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Xandros Networks Reply with quote

phillipchandler wrote:
I think its a total rip-off that Xandros 4 open circulation users have to pay up

its the only distro to auto see my wireless card


How did you feel about paying for your wireless card?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...........we have been using xos oce for a while and would like to add other programs occassionally but when i add more addresses i get lots of error messages ..then ...update list but next time it does the same thing .......the only site that works is xn site ..we would also like to be able use scribus ...can we just pay for the xn netorks or do we have to purchase and install xandros to be able to use the other addresses listed on xn ?

my main concern is that it has taken a lot of time to get we are now and if i re-install the os again i will have to spend days getting it running again as it was before ...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, let's start with what repositories you've tried so far? Some repositories can cause problems. Also how many did you enable at one time?

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