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BoyLinux Xandros Employees

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 1951 Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: OCE 4 - Prerelease information |
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This is just a prerelease notification on some of the changes in OCE 4.
OCE 4 will only be available in DVD-ISO format.
This means to download and burn you will need to have a DVD-RW and to install you will need a DVD Drive. If you do not have one it might be a good time to add one to your wish list.
The size of the download will be around 900 Megs so it may take longer to download.
The size difference is because we have included installation options from the same media for English, German, Brazilian Portuguese, Argentinian Spanish and French. To fit all the language translations and language packs for various applications like OpenOffice and Firefox and such took more room then could be fit on one CD. On the plus side it should be pretty much a one shot install and not much need to download from XN if you are on dial-up.
Anyways the release date still has not been fixed yet but it should be soon so hang onto your pants and leave some bandwidth on your plans if you are limited. _________________ Kevin MacPherson
Xandros - Product Manager
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Frank Billington Xandrosianding

Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 901
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Kevin:
>Anyways the release date still has not been fixed yet but it should be soon so hang onto your pants and leave some bandwidth on your plans if you are limited.<
I'm not an OCE user -- I've always bought the full package as I've always been sure that it was worth the minor investment. What does encourage me, however, is the increased communication between Xandros and its users. This is a good thing. Even if the release date is not fixed, it is good to at least know how things are progressing. This was so WOEFULLY lacking in the preparation and release of 4.0.
My thanks to the Xandros team for keeping us somewhat more 'in the loop' on things.
Frank. |
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LarryR2 Xplorer
Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:56 am Post subject: |
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I have a DVD-ROM drive in a 5.25" external USB drive enclosure that I occasionally use on PCs which have only a CD/CDRW drive. Do you think it will be possible to boot a non-DVD PC using (for example) a Linux live-CD and then install OCE4 using a USB-attached DVD drive? Thank you.
P.S. I am a "real" Xandros customer, but I have occasionally installed OCE3 on some old PC hardware to show how wonderful an Xandros Linux system could be.
Larry |
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BoyLinux Xandros Employees

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 1951 Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: |
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You should be able to boot from the USB drive a smost modern computers have the option of booting from USB in the BIOS.
Sometimes on boot up you'll get the option to go to a one time boot menu which will allow you to select which device to boot from. _________________ Kevin MacPherson
Xandros - Product Manager
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laofzu Xplorer
Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 89 Location: Sheboygan, Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: Xandros 4 OCE Release Date |
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| Anybody hear a date when Xandros 4 OCE will be released? The last I heard was sometime in January. It is now January. Any updated information would appreciated. |
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TheGhost Xplorer
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Hello.
First of all, I would like to thank and congratulate all of you involved in Xandros for doing a great job.
I'm a Windows user in the process to switch to Linux. I've been trying many distros for the last few months; right now I'm evaluating Xandros.
There are several things I like about it; they can be summarized by saying that I like that Xandros is newbie friendly, particularly for us windows refugees. I'm even reccomending it to other windows users that are in need to escape from Micro$oft's extorsion.
If I may dare, I would like to make a request/suggestion: Please don't release OCE4 in DVD format only.
Here in the underdeveloped countries, bandwith and hardware tend to be rather expensive comodities. Downloading a big ISO file, and having to upgrade to a DVD burner may not be accessible for many (sadly, including me.)
Could it be possible to release perhaps two CD localizations? One perhaps for English, German and French; another for Spanish and Portuguese? Or something similar?
I don't know if what I'm asking is nonsense, or if that would mean a change of plans that can not be done anymore. But I just wanted to add a couple of cents to this post. If it can't/won't be done, I'll understand; and my good opinion of Xandros won't change.
Thanks.
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aldube Xandrosianschwing
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 2332 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| BoyLinux wrote: | OCE 4 will only be available in DVD-ISO format.
The size of the download will be around 900 Megs so it may take longer to download. |
Nice; Linux on DVD is starting to become necessary, as the install CD can only hold so much.
| TheGhost wrote: | If I may dare, I would like to make a request/suggestion: Please don't release OCE4 in DVD format only.
Here in the underdeveloped countries, bandwith and hardware tend to be rather expensive comodities. Downloading a big ISO file, and having to upgrade to a DVD burner may not be accessible for many (sadly, including me.) |
You know; it just may be possible to take the Xandros 900 MB ISO and shave off 200 MB so it can fit on CD using ISO editing software (maybe as simple as deleting the other language files & perhaps Open Office); where there's a will there's usually a way (the open office DEBs could probably be copied to a second CD.) If this is a really big issue for you then just post a thread in The Lab and I'm sure some clever user will come up with a how-to.
Worst case for older computers with no CDROM, DVDROM , or USB port you might have to borrow a DVDROM and plug into IDE cable to get Xandros 4 installed.  _________________ Linux simply works for me...
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jimallyn Site Admin

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 8195 Location: Wenatchee, Washington, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| aldube wrote: | | You know; it just may be possible to take the Xandros 900 MB ISO and shave off 200 MB so it can fit on CD using ISO editing software |
I've been reading about how to do that. But don't take that as a committment that I'm going to be able to do it! I do think it should be made available on CDs, but it appears Xandros is not going to.
Jim _________________ I refuse to live in a country like this - and I'm not leaving. - Michael Moore |
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Hotchips Xandrosian

Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 161 Location: NZ
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| I don't see how Xandros Corp could do that (a 700mb iso of OCE 4). It would conflict with their business goals. Their goal is to sell their product for money (and also to produce/distribute an OCE version for as little cost as possible)... if the OCE has too many configurations it will cost more and will also satisfy more users who then won't need to buy the commercial versions. |
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Arne Anka Xanspiration

Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 4186 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| Hotchips wrote: | | if the OCE has too many configurations it will cost more and will also satisfy more users who then won't need to buy the commercial versions. |
Don't think so. The content is mostly free software you can get for free from XN anyway. Most comercial tuff (which is why anyone would buy Xandros in the first plce) is most probably not included or crippled. |
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geofgibson Xplorer
Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 44
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: What kernel for OCE 4? |
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| With the recent release of kernel 2.6.20, where can we expect we'll be when we finally get the OCE of v4? Will we be back at 2.6.18 or what? |
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aldube Xandrosianschwing
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 2332 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: What kernel for OCE 4? |
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| geofgibson wrote: | | With the recent release of kernel 2.6.20, where can we expect we'll be when we finally get the OCE of v4? Will we be back at 2.6.18 or what? |
It will be kernel 2.6.18, as Linux kernel 2.6.20 doesn't give any extra funtionality to Xandros 4; the Xandros Team doesn't upgrade their Linux kernels if they don't have to.  _________________ Linux simply works for me...
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xanman Xandrosian

Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 156
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm confused - OCE 4 DVD only? So, let's go out and buy a DVD burner to try ver 4 OCE. What if I like it? I may not have enough in my budget to actually buy a full version 4 now - but I've got the burner!!! The 1st thing I'm going to do anyway is a localepurge and rid myself of languages and man pages I don't really need. Seems to make much more business sense to offer a OCE 4 in ENGLISH ONLY, that will fit on a single CD. Seems like the right thing to get OCE 4 in as many hand as possible - greater possibility of subsequent sales maybe? Is this company public yet? Hmmm - guess not. |
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Smurfos Xplorer
Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 76
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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I have to agree that a DVD is the way to go, IF it includes extra software like BibleTime, the codec libraries, some different players for items, etc. But to make it a "one for all" is just not cool. Weigh which language is used the most in your target area and use that one....it makes more biz sense really....
I am all for supporting Linux distros, but a lot of them seem to be going the M$ way of size, it is not just Xandros. so as this happens I look for others to take their place. I hope the Xandros folks don't drop the ball on this one.... _________________ My Music
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DeanLinkous Xandrosianling

Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 399
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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a dvd of only 900megs? why a dvd anyway?
Could the lead devel, take a vacation, come back and re-read the memo that announced this change please. I am sure they will find it to be completely silly - as I do. _________________ ...into every life a little rain must fall... |
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