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deancicca Xandrosian

Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 211 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| davidalun wrote: | | Most times when I see your name on a post I do ignore it, sometimes not - my choice. I've long since stopped being bothered by them. |
Ditto, for me as well. |
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farang Xandrosianding

Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Posts: 930 Location: YEOVAL Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:45 am Post subject: |
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I've been able to play all audio stuff on Kaffeine just downloading the files from XN which this forum has told me to download.
For the same reason I can play all video files with Kaffeine except .asf and some .wmvs. This would appear to be pretty good coverage to me.
regards
farang _________________
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aw- we've been thrown out of better clubs than this - Abbott & Costello |
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ranran Xandrosian

Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 216
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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I tried all the steps given and still nada. Then I went into MPLAYER config (the wrench on the remote, or whatever it's supposed to look like) and under CODECS I selected the W32 ones and bingo...now things work perfectly.
Thanks folks. |
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jpp-zoso Xandrosianding

Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 712 Location: Wisconsin, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Music and Movie Players |
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| Andrew wrote: | Q1: For playing music files, I'm not satisfied with XMMS (MP3 Player in the Launch menu), or any other application in the default Xandros install. Can anyone recommend another program?
Q2: For playing videos, I don't like the look of Xine (Video Player in the Launch menu). I'd like something that can play any type of video file, and I need play list support. |
A1. i usually default to rhythmbox and madman, both available from the debian unsupported repo...have not tried the newer amarok release, think the last one i tried was 1.0 or 1.1 and wasn't overly impressed. i'm always on the lookout for new audio players/managers. have several installed on xandros from debian unsupported, but never get around to trying most. not a big fan of xmms or winamp either.
A2. i've found most linux video players have the same functionality for me once the codecs are installed...never have understood the raving or ranting for one player over another. mplayer, kmplayer, xine/kaffeine/totem, ogle/okle, vlc all pretty much do the same thing for me, so maybe i have simple video needs. _________________
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davidalun Xandrosianschwing
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Posts: 2172 Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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A1 - I'd suggest amaroK (the latest versions are very impressive IMHO)
A2 - Kaffeine _________________ Dave Blythin.
Xandos 1, 2, 3, 4 ... and now PCLOS. |
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TGBaker Xandrosianding

Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 545 Location: St. Simons Island, GA
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| davidalun wrote: | A1 - I'd suggest amaroK (the latest versions are very impressive IMHO)
A2 - Kaffeine |
I like Amarok better but have not been able to get it to read my wma tags. Rhythmbox on the other hand reads the wma tags on my system and also gives you a internet music streamer built in. _________________ "You can't write a chord ugly enough to say what you want to say sometimes, so you have to rely on a giraffe filled with whip cream."--Frank Zappa |
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Chaotic Thought Xandrosianding

Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 881 Location: Arlington TX
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I use MPlayer and Kaffeine. One thing that Kaffeine lacks is an OSD. When I use MPlayer, I can do everything while in full-screen mode by using the keyboard commands (display the track time on the OSD, change subtitles, skip back/forth, etc), but in Kaffeine, many operations can only be performed by cancelling the full-screen mode and using the menus. |
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farenheit Xandrosianding

Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 903 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:11 am Post subject: |
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I use amaroK but used to use XMMS. XMMS is still OK, but as was said earlier, its functionality is about WinAMP 2.X level and with no media library at all it makes handling large collections very difficult. amaroKs functionality is much improved and I am now starting to appreciate it even above WinAMP 5 (which I still use when in XP gaming). Things like the queue manager, smart playlists etc really make it the better app for handling large collections of music.
For video, that depends. I use Xine for DVD as it "looks like PowerDVD" which I am familiar with and it just works as far as I am concerned. Otherwise for watching stupid web clips or "funny" clips etc I use Noatunn because it loads so much more quickly.
Yes the Linux RealPlayer is appalling, but so is the Windows one! Blame RealNetworks for that. If they spent as much time developing decent software as they did on lawsuits and adding advertising and spyware "features", then I am sure RealPlayer would be much better *cough*  |
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woodsmoke Xanalandingdonger
Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 4970 Location: United States
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:19 pm Post subject: nice post andrew |
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Andrew,
I made the great mistake of allowing realplayer to infect my windoze machine when I first got on the net and spent days trying to get it's tentacles out of the system.
I always used mplayer or something like that because I got so tired of Media Player always assuming that I was waiting with bated breath to be hooked by an I.V. to media players site.... and the playlist way of doing things was just, to my simple brain, much to convoluted to get it to work. When I realized that I was almost completely working with mpegs for educational use, showing them in powerpoint, I just dropped the piece of trash and used mplayer.
I use media stuff so little that I was astounded to hear that MS had acquired RealPlayer!
That is one of the reasons I've kept the Winbox.
I had kind of assumed that getting some kind of media player thingy to work in Xandros would require a bunch of commands, which at my stage of life, being older than dirt, I really don't have time for.
But, the thread has reinvigorated me and I'll give it all a try this weekend.
good on!
ain't XANDROS great!
woodsmoke _________________ If the eco-ists would only shut up, I wonder if the sound of their droning would be replaced by the sound of normal people fitting solar panels and making soup from nettles and twigs.(J Clarkson) |
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robin Xplorer
Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 57
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:57 am Post subject: it's not a religion, it's a tool for getting results |
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Regarding the previous thread or argument between davidalum and deancicca I have to say I agree with everything deancicca said.
I it is depressing having a look at the Xandros forums after a few months to see not much has changed. Multimedia, especially music is still horrible and pathetic on Linux, and the Linux community still doesn't get it. By "it" I mean what the point of computers is.
I think I mentioned it once before but it bears repeating: with friends like davidalum, Linux doesn't need enemies. I think davidalum has probably sent more people running away from Xandros and Linux than any other single thing. |
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jpp-zoso Xandrosianding

Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 712 Location: Wisconsin, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| davidalun wrote: | I believe that most people would rather take the 2 minutes (or whatever) to download the codecs than pay extra.
I also believe that most people (in this Linux community) would do considerably more than that if it meant they could avoid giving more money (albeit indirectly) to M$. I know I certainly would. |
i agree...and i simply don't see what is so objectionable, controversial, or argumentative about this response.
linspire's codec license "rental" will run out in a year or two i believe, and was settlement resulting from the "lindows" naming legal battle. rather than take a monetary settlement, michael robertson chose something he thought would help his linux distro. linspire was in a rather unique situation...it will be interesting to see what they do in a year or two when the settlement period expires.
i can't think of another linux distro i've tried or used that didn't require codec downloads. at most it's like a one-time 9.3mb download and install, at best it's a one-time 5.9mb download and install. and w/ xn/synaptic/apt-get, the install is no problem. i'd rather see xandros spend time on things that are difficult for the end user like they do now...hardware detection and support, kernel and application stability, etc. _________________
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deancicca Xandrosian

Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 211 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:11 am Post subject: |
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I do agree that it doesn't take much to download the codecs. That wasn't the point of my comment. I also would not mind paying a little extra even to M$ to get ALL the codecs M$ has to make sure that all forms of media work within the media player (media player of your choice).
I do believe M$ will continue to allow Linspire to distribute their codecs with a fee because for as greedy as M$ might be they see that things are changing and that this will be one of the ways to make additional revenue. Like it or not you are going to have to pay for things in this world. No matter how much you want open source to stay free, which it is for the most part. It is going to cost some money if you wish to be able to get the most out of your computer.
I have no problem paying someone or a corporation a reasonable fee for software. I don't care if it is something I can compile and reprogram myself. I don't want to do it. You are paying for time and effort. They are doing things you would rather not do. Not everyone in the Linux community wishes to learn computer programming, Linux itself has gone mainstream and like it or not the landscape has changed, Which always begs me to ask the question that if people are so intent on getting things for free, compiling and all the other reprogramming why are you using Xandros? |
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jpp-zoso Xandrosianding

Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 712 Location: Wisconsin, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| deancicca wrote: | | I also would not mind paying a little extra even to M$ to get ALL the codecs M$ has to make sure that all forms of media work within the media player (media player of your choice). |
i don't believe microsloth makes all their media codecs available, even for a fee, but i could be wrong, i simply don't care that much.
| deancicca wrote: | | Like it or not you are going to have to pay for things in this world. |
are you sure? crap. guess i'll hafta get a job...
| deancicca wrote: | | No matter how much you want open source to stay free, which it is for the most part. It is going to cost some money if you wish to be able to get the most out of your computer. |
your power of assumption is astounding. i don't know how you do it.
| deancicca wrote: | | Not everyone in the Linux community wishes to learn computer programming, Linux itself has gone mainstream and like it or not the landscape has changed, Which always begs me to ask the question that if people are so intent on getting things for free, compiling and all the other reprogramming why are you using Xandros? |
once again, your power of assumption is amazing.
you seem intent on being presumptively disagreeable for the sake of being disagreeable, so i think i like davidalun's approach to simply ignoring you from now on. _________________
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deancicca Xandrosian

Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 211 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:31 am Post subject: |
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What responses, sarcastism. Notice I didn't see anything to back up your original claims agreeing with David. Nothing not one.
Typical response from some like you. You and David have alot in common.
And you didn't fully read and/or comprehend about the codecs. I didn't say ALL codecs on the market, just M$'s codecs. So before commenting with smart remarks, I suggest you actually get your facts straight on what your commenting on. Having a problem I suggest rereading several times to comprehend.
And since you are going to ignore, I have to point out you took considerable amount of time responding with absolutely no substance to your responses. But that is par for the course on this forum with people such as yourself when all else fails just be sarcastic. Why actually add something meaningful to the conversation. Why actually stick to facts and reality. |
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davidalun Xandrosianschwing
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Posts: 2172 Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: it's not a religion, it's a tool for getting results |
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| robin wrote: | | I think I mentioned it once before but it bears repeating: with friends like davidalum, Linux doesn't need enemies. I think davidalum has probably sent more people running away from Xandros and Linux than any other single thing. |
Obviously I haven't managed to send you away - perhaps I should try a little harder.
On the other hand if you think I should leave the forum just say so .... as it happens this is the first I've heard of this from you. I seem to recall you were pleased enough to get my help when you were new here.
So are you going to enlighten us to what the "point of computers" is - besides playing multimedia - or is that the sum total of their use?
Oh yeah, that's davidalun with an 'N' on the end. If you're going after someone at least have the courtesy to get the spelling right. _________________ Dave Blythin.
Xandos 1, 2, 3, 4 ... and now PCLOS.
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