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justo · Xandrosianding Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 569

Censored again,Hey.Google this > Gore is on the Apple computer board.

Davepet · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:53 am Post subject:

web_dev · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:08 am Post subject:

To get this sticky back on track...

I built a computer in high school, just to see if I could do it...I was happy with myself after I got it to boot, even though I had to upgrade the mobo because the first one wasn't compatible...

But I found myself feeling more than slightly dissappointed after I realized that as soon as I got it to boot, it was already outdated! Laughing

Now I mainly use laptops and don't really have the time to build another system...but I think it is definitely fun/rewarding to do. If I ever build a serious workstation I may just build it from scratch. I find the most common problem with building machines is compatibility issues, so you have to make sure to do your homework on all the components.
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bryantrv · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject:

I've been itching to build another cheap computer lately. I often look at http://geeks.com for refurb stuff, and I found this:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BB-U-BUDDIE-SYS&cat=SYS
$99 for a Bare Bones with a 1ghz Via C3 processor, motherboard, case and power supply- pretty much the only thing you need to add is a CDRom drive, 2.5" Hard Drive and memory.
It's a pretty basic system- but small, and what caught my eye is that it comes with a Thizlinux CD- which is apparently a Chinese distribution, but that makes it sound like the hardware might be Linux friendly.
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justo · Xandrosianding Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 569

i have built three lately. i am on this one i built. it has an Apex case and power supply and this board below and i have Ubuntu 5.10 on one hd and Damn Small Linux on the other.>>> $69.99
* BIOSTAR P4M80-M4-COMBO35 Intel Celeron D 315 Socket 478 VIA P4M800 Micro ATX Motherboard/CPU Set - Retail

strawnman · Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject:

Cheap, reliable, known to work with X3 and 4

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131569
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822135106
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144113
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144113
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152058

the combo dvd may not install X4 so check it out and see if there is another dvd combo you are interested in.

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fangbite · Xandrosianling Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 317

My current comp is currently heading to the graveyard (I love how I've been around computers so long that I can tell when they're going to die soon...) so I'm going to need a new computer. Of couse I'm going to build it from scratch, but I had a couple of questions before I start zipping out my wallet.

First, I've always been an AMD fan over Intel, but the new line of products are confusing me. AMD's big thing is their 64 bit processors and Intel with their dual core. I understand the advantages of dual core (applications that use multiple threads run faster) but I'm not sure what the 64 bit processor has over a 32 bit processor. Is it worth getting a 64 processor?

Second, I'm thinking of going small, i.e. the micro atx style boards. This is because I'm a gamer (specifically a lan party man) and I want to be able to easily trasport my gaming machine to the places I want to play. How do these smaller boards handle? Does anyone have any experience? Is it worth going smaller instead of staying with the big clunky? I know they have less expansion slots, but as I'm only using one on my current board, I don't see this as a problem.

Third, while my memory is decent, I am thinking of buying new sticks. I want at least 1 gig so my questions are 1)which is better, 2 512 or 1 gig stick and 2)is ddr2 (or whatever the new type is called) worth getting over ddr?

Thanks ahead for any and all help.

woodsmoke · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:17 am Post subject:

Hi fangbite

good luck on your computer: lotta fun! Smile

a) A lot of the kids around here have bought "lanparty" computers with wheels...it's the latest "in" thing.. Smile

b) I don't like the small boards.... no AGP slots, never know when you'll come across a REAL DEAL and need one..

c) I've always heard, and my computer buddies all say use several sticks...and try for 3 or 4 slots so you can have the sticks spread out instead of just one...

And yeah, AMD for games.... Smile

good luck!

ain't XANdros GREAT!
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Davepet · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:19 am Post subject:

fangbite · Xandrosianling Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 317

Woodsmoke, the boards I'm looking at comes with 1 AGP, 1 PCI Express and 2 PCI, more than what I need to satisfy what I have and possible future. Also, the wheeled computers are so cheesey.

troilus · Xandrosianling Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Posts: 443

I've built a number of PCs over the years, and refurbed many more by combining used parts.

I've also tried to build a really quiet PC by buying an expensive "quiet" case and power supply.

In the end I've found that the Compaq Presario desktop I bought from Costco is the quietest and most trouble-free PC I've ever used. It also came with Costco's 6-month, no-hassle return privilege, which allowed me plenty of time to tell if the PC and I were going to get along.

This has put me off building from scratch. I don't even boot my $1000, custom, quiet PC anymore, because it is so much noisier than the off-the-shelf Costco model.

I'm glad I know how to build from scratch, but I doubt I will anymore, because the big PC manufacturers have finally figured out quiet. My Mac iBook and Mac Mini are totally silent. I can't match that with anything I've built.

drl · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:37 am Post subject:

Hi, troilus.

I see on the costco.com web site that there are a number of choices (3 currently) for Compaq desktops.

Please tell us a bit more about what you chose and why ... cheers, drl
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woodsmoke · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:44 am Post subject:

fangbite,

you must be gettin' close to bein' oldern' dirt!

CHEESIER IS BETTER when you're a young LAN kid! Laughing

ain't XandroS GrEAT!
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Ali_D · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject:

fangbite

Can get pretty good mATX boards these days (Last build I used one was a MSI Socket A one but little difference between it and my full ATX board) but if you want ultimate portability shouldn't you be looking at a SFF like shuttle et al. For mATX it's the issue of finding a case I usually find is an issue and the thing ends up in in ATX one.

I've just had a promo email from one e-tailer I use with a AM2 model from Shuttle with 1x PCI-E x16, 1 x PCI, DDr-2 support, IDE, SATA, Lan, 6ch audio, on board (abet cr*p) graphics for less than a bleeding edge ATX mobo at £123.38 GBP inc vat (in UK pc stuff for some reason doesn't translate $ to £ but trust me a bleeding edge mobo alone would be more than that here, prob get in US for not more in $ terms) A biostar SFF case comes with better graphics for less from the same supplier. If you need to conserve older components you could get something with AGP & DDR support for the same or less
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