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bobf · Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:02 am Post subject: Pardus

I posted this a number of days ago but I think it got lost due to the size and variable topics on that thread. So I will try again here.
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OK, I have received the Pardus live disc that I ordered. I have started it several times now and am a bit disappointed. Probably a lot of my disappointment is that it is not really installed.

It is very slow to install itself on my laptop. It seems about normal once installed except when trying to do something different and it has to go back to the disk again. I have had it crash once on an exit shutdown. It went to the disk, printed out a lot of stuff on the screen, then just sat there spinning the disk. I could not shut it off or open the disk drawer. So I used my trusty paper clip to release the disc tray. Then I could shut things down and restart under XP.

So far I can not get it to link to my wifi nor will it look into my files and tell me what it sees. I am confused by the file manager. Maybe because it is so different from the format that I am used to in MS, Xandros, and the good old DOS days. I don't really like icons and would prefer details like Xandros tables give us. I have been able to change from icons to details on Pardus but still don't know if it will allow me to drag and drop from one file list to another. Maybe if once installed it will allow me to see better if I want to keep it or not.

I intend to keep trying to get Pardus to give me a real example of how it works. I guess if I work with the install and setup screens I might find a way to turn things on. If not I will need to reset some partitions and install Pardus completely.

Reseting my partitions is a problem I wanted to avoid which is why I ordered a live disc. The live discs I have for Ubuntu and Simply Mepis allow me to see everything as if installed, their file managers let me see all my files, and when satisfied they have an install button. Which I have not done for them either so far.

I tried my very old Norton Partition Magic and it immediately told my my HD was wrong and needed correcting. My HD is working fine and I refused the offer to fix the HD so Partition Magic tossed me out. I remember years back that Norton did that to another one of my discs. I would say something like sector so and so has an address of XXXXXBBBB and it should be YYYYYYYYAAAAA. Both addresses must be the same. Should Norton fix this problem? I think that in the past I said yes and as a result lost a lot of data. I have no idea why Norton wants to fix a HD that seems to be working just fine. As of Dec 2009 Nortons Partition Magic is no longer available.

Now I will need a new partition changing device. The only one I could find that will work DOS, MS, Linux, MAC is 'Parted Magic'. Any thoughts on using this item. Of course this is on the 'free' list. I am sure there might also be some on the purchase list too. Toss one here if you know of a good one. Reasonable cost won't keep me from spending a bit.
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XandrosAdminAJ · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject:

bobf, please point us to a website and other info on this disk. If there are v versions, also which one you used. Also might be helpful to have a couple details of your computer.
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Arv3n · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:51 pm Post subject:

I'd probably use Pardus more often, but there is virtually no English community.
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bobf · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:32 pm Post subject:

kalwisti · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:01 am Post subject: Re: Pardus

Hi, bobf,

It sounds like you are trying to give Pardus a fair evaluation. I'd like to see you succeed, so I will try to offer a few tips / suggestions which I hope you'll find helpful. Even if these don't completely solve your problems, I think they will point you in the direction of a solution.

I would suggest that if you continue to have problems with configuration and/or installation, please register with the Pardus Worldforum ( http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/ ) and post your questions. There are knowledgeable, helpful, English-speaking people there who will try to help you. (The Worldforum is almost entirely in English, with smaller sub-forums in French, Spanish, etc. The main Turkish-language forum, Özgürlük İçin ('For Freedom'), is hosted on a different website [ http://www.ozgurlukicin.com/forum/ ]. For those who can read German, there is also an active German-language forum [ http://forum.pardususer.de/ ]).

Here goes ...

bobf · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:32 am Post subject:

A wealth of information, Many thanks for all this.

I will print this off and have it handy for use as I progress along this trail. Not a big hurry as my Xandros system is doing fine right now but will likely become useless if the machine or printer gives out, as they usually do.

Lots to read in your post so away I go.

Anyone else have ideas please post. All are welcome.
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Hunter · Xplorer Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Colorado

Just checking' in on your quest Bob, been gone a while.. Looks like kalwisti addressed many of your questions, apologies to you and him for not mentioning his prior posts regarding Pardus, my mind went on hiatus Rolling Eyes

Have you downloaded the install iso? I do want to add that all did not go well with Pardus not picking up my Ubuntu installation with the proper Grub addition. I'm choosing to keep things on separate hard disks and picking the one I want to boot from with my bios's boot menu.
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bobf · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject:

Hunter, I have not progressed so far. It was good to hear that Pardus has a built in partition maker. That should help. I guess I should follow your suggestion and that of a person on a different forum. Just put Pardus on its own drive, or wait until I get a bigger hard drive for my desk top. Not sure if what I have will allow a decent load.

I could get the install stuff. That seems to be the only way I will find out about liking or not liking the file manager part. My experience with the live disc was not very good for the file manager at all. I found it very confusing to begin with and it did not pick up some things I though it should. I was a bit disappointed with the Pardus live disc. It did not operate as fully as the Ubuntu and Simply Mepis live discs did and you can not install from it like from the others.

Thanks for asking. It is still in my job jar, but not very high in priority at this time.
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EarthBoundMisfit · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Pardus

Hunter · Xplorer Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Colorado

Hey Bob,

Found this video on Dolphin, gives some insight on basic user configuration and usability. Helped me out a little..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_aVVCnGeyU
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bobf · Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject:

Hunter, thanks for that link. I watched it and put it in my bookmarks so I can find it again.

I think I will just need to buy the install disk and see if it will load itself on my desk top. If it does load I will have Win98SE, Xandros 4.2, and Pardus to work with.

I have printed down the Pardus installation manual, got the Dolphin film, lots of other links and reading, so I will have plenty to do. Big problem now is that summer is coming and that is always my busiest time of year. Lots of yard work, things to fix around the house. and a desire to travel to visit my kids up north in your part of the world.

One thing I have always done is shut off the icons and went to text files for the file managers. I just don't like working with icons. But willing to see what is available on Pardus.
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kalwisti · Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject:

bobf · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:37 am Post subject:

Yes, I am aware of this option. It was mentioned in the film with a comment about all the wasted space. Just another thing I will have to play with if I ever get around to installing Pardus. In the film it appeared that he had deleted the right column and the left column so that the file manager took over the entire screen, then he changed to text mode and it did seem to have a file name column on the left of he screen and file size etc. on the right side of the screen. Big nothing between. So it would be a preference and usability thing to play with when the Pardus is up and running.
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Hunter · Xplorer Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Colorado

kalwisti, any word on your end on the upcoming 2009.2?

Was a little blurb in the forums a few days back, according to schedule it should have been released already

Oh.... I see you posted! Ha, too funny.

Yes, BellaPup (Hunter)
It's a dog thing and you'll see when I attach my picture

and... I was going to post on that, just have not gotten to it as of yet.

Thanks!
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bobf · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject:

OK, I now have the Pardus install disc on order for the cost of $3.91. For me that is much cheaper than downloading and then making a series of coasters while trying to burn a good disc.

I will post after I receive it and had time to try to install and set up the program.

I forget where I got OSDISC.COM link from, so whoever it was I say thanks to you.
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