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jimimaseye · Xandrosian Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 212

Hi guys.

I have recently been playing with installing RealPlayer11 on my X4.1. Although we've seen that the .BIN install works, it does have a few problems in that the official install environment has an incompatible LANGUAGE variable and a shell script error. So I wanted to see if I could get a DEB to work. So I started by downloading the RPM and 'alien convert' it to a deb - as Doctore has proved that this works a treat, (it doesnt have the failing dependancy text which prevents the official DEB from installing), fixed a fault in the 'functions' script and added a correction to the LANGUAGE variable (in the 'realplay' script), and rebuilt the DEB using the instructions as found on this forum. (See http://forums.xandros.com/viewtopic.php?p=229377#229377 and associated postings for full details).

Anyway......

I have the DEB and the Xandros Networks performs the install. But I get an error during the install regarding gconf_settings:

TekMate · Xendrosian Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 1092 Location: MA

To the best of my knowledge XN is a front end for apt not dpkg.
Apt tries to check dependencies and fix or error out if there is a problem.
Dpkg assumes you know what you are doing and will happily trash your system as that is what you asked it to. This is one of the reason to stay away from dpkg if you can. Newer system use gdeb or gdebi you can see if this is available this checks before installing (if possible) and doesn't clobber the system.
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jimimaseye · Xandrosian Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 212

Hi Tekmate

I hear what youre saying but Im not sure that the differences between the levels of care between apt and dkpg are the answer, although perhaps I should try an install at console using apt-get and see if i get the same as I do with XN. Why would the single command line in the script fail just because it is being run by XN (apt) and yet it seems to work fine with both dpkg, and even a console prompt. Surely if it works at console prompt by MANUALLY typing the same command then surely it is acceptable by the system on a whole and apt wouldnt care. Further more, this isnt about dependancies.

One of the 3 command lines itself that is failing in the script (all 3 are similar) is:

$AS_USER "gconftool-2 --type=bool --set /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/rtsp/need-terminal false"

where $AS_USER is "su $USER -c " (defined earlier in the script)

Therefore the complete line is

su $USER -c "gconftool-2 --type=bool --set /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/rtsp/need-terminal false"

Now if you run this as a manual command in console, no problem (try it yourself). In fact, if you call the script containing this command (install_gconf_settings.sh), from a console, no problems. Its only during XN installation when the very SAME script is called, that it fails.

For your info, here is the complete script:

TekMate · Xendrosian Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 1092 Location: MA

-c class Use the settings of the specified login class. Only allowed for the super-user.

When you do this from a command line are you already root? It seems like it wants root privileges rather than asking for them but I could be wrong.
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jimimaseye · Xandrosian Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 212

I do run it as root anyway, yes. I understand the command and indeed it does work at command line level.

Now here's a thing.........

I have used apt-get install at CONSOLE level to install the very same deb file and it installs absolutely fine without any errors reported (just like the dpkg install).

It seems, therefore, that it is simply the XandrosNetworks install software that has a problem. This is strange as you say that it uses the same technique for installation (apt-get).

TekMate · Xendrosian Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 1092 Location: MA

I doubt they will continue using XN even if they decide to release a new version they purchased CNR it wouldn't make sense to maintain both.
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jimimaseye · Xandrosian Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 212

They have thousands of existing customers using their technologies and OS's that use XandrosNetworks installer including paid Server and Premium editions. And these people rely on XN. I very much doubt that they can and will completely stop all support for it just because of buying CNR. CNR will only be useful to future releases and developments. And as this 'problem' may be something that needs fixing and could affect other installs as well then I think it should be looked into for their benefit.

But I, and you, are both summising.

Perhaps we should log it with them anyway and find out for sure from them.
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