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Monster_user
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My apologies. I was expecting a bit of humor in this thread, but I was not trying to stir things up this much.
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Davepet
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Monster, no need to apologize we were just having some fun until Kona objected to it.
| Quote: | | Dave - you seem to forget that back when I first came here I had problems with Xandros. You helped me out with those problems. |
And I would help you again if I could, but I have little knowledge of windows problems anymore.
| Quote: | | So let's have no more of this "why are you here" crap. I use Linux from time to time. I know it's better than Windows in general but for me Windows does what I need it too. |
Sorry, but that question is legitimate. You claim to still run Linux & acknowledge that it is "better in general" but then say "windows does what I need it to", thereby implying that Linux does not. The first question that comes to my mind is "why are you here if windows makes you so happy?"
I think that's the first question in most Xandros users minds, don't you?
| Quote: | To all of you that pointed out that I'm on a linux forum - I know that.
I just don't think It's just not fair to constantly downgrade and belittle MS. I've never had a problem with them and I refuse to subscribe to all the conspiracy theories out there. |
Our opinions are fair in our minds, many of us HAVE had troubles with ms & it's software. You are in a very small percentage of people who have never had any problems with ms, the company, or their software. Probably a fraction of 1% are in your shoes.
It is unreasonable for you to expect the rest of us to cease & desist just because you have had such good luck.
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Set
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| kona0197 wrote: | | Oh and Set: Dual Core does make a difference... |
I got pcs with both Dual Core and Single Core CPU, both AMD and Intel. And I can honestly say that I can not tell any difference between them at all.
One reason would be that not many applications use dual core's and my daily use doesn't generate so much processing needs that two cores would be needed.
Also my point is that his Windows Vista screenshot would look EXACTLY the same if his CPU had one or two cores, as it's only the GPU drivers that has anything to do with that.
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wshillington
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Hi:
Since this seems to be a discussion on Vista I have a question. I have been thinking about building a computer. I will set it up to dual boot. For the Windows side I can use Win XP which. while very good, is an old OS. Anyone have a clear idea of what additional benefits Vista has compared with XP?
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Set
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| wshillington wrote: | Hi:
Since this seems to be a discussion on Vista I have a question. I have been thinking about building a computer. I will set it up to dual boot. For the Windows side I can use Win XP which. while very good, is an old OS. Anyone have a clear idea of what additional benefits Vista has compared with XP?
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Bryce |
I don't think there are any. There isn't any special software that works only under Windows Vista. I would guess the added security with the UAC stuff and the DRM + DirectX 10 is the only things. Of course there are more features that probably could be useful, but from an application perspective I see no good reason to go with Vista instead of XP.
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kona0197
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Dave - those problems I had way back were related to Xandros not Windows.
I haven't installed Linux on here yet because the rig is under warranty. Installing Linux would void that warranty.
That and Wine can't play my Command and Conquer.
I still have a few friends here so that's another reason I hang out.
I'm sick of arguing let's just live and let live OK?
A question for Set: If dual core doesn't matter why is it my machine is so slow even with 2 gigs of high speed ram and a single core Celeron 420?
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Set
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| kona0197 wrote: | Dave - those problems I had way back were related to Xandros not Windows.
I haven't installed Linux on here yet because the rig is under warranty. Installing Linux would void that warranty.
That and Wine can't play my Command and Conquer.
I still have a few friends here so that's another reason I hang out.
I'm sick of arguing let's just live and let live OK?
A question for Set: If dual core doesn't matter why is it my machine is so slow even with 2 gigs of high speed ram and a single core Celeron 420? |
Because older Celeron is a slow cpu. Try using an AMD 3500+ (or better), or even a Pentium M or Pentium 4 from 2.0 ghz and up. Doesn't have anything to do with if it's a dual or single core to do 
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geekydude
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I have DirectX 9 installed in wine, and it works pretty well.
I don't know of any DirectX 10 options for Wine, but my understanding is it's not finding much adoption in most circles (yet).
I just installed an update to include Windows media 10 support as well as all of the previous versions. It works quite well, but there's also very little use of it in most circles (so far).
Here's my current supported multimedia codecs I have installed...
The package contains all of Fluendo's GStreamer plugins which are:
Windows Media Audio Decoder (Windows Media 7, 8, 9, 10, Pro, Lossless and Speech)
Windows Media Video Decoder (Windows Media 7, 8, 9 and VC1)
Windows Media ASF Demuxer
Windows Media MMS Networking
MPEG2 Video Decoder
MPEG4 Part 2 (DivX) Video Decoder
H.264/AVC Video Decoder (32 bits only)
MPEG2 Program Stream and Transport Stream demuxer
MPEG4 ISO Demuxer
MP3 Audio Decoder
AC3 Audio Decoder
AAC Audio Decoder (32 bits only)
I recommend the Fluendo codecs for anyone using gstreamer 0.10 (required). 
If anyone wants to know how to obtain these codecs, feel free to send me an email or PM via Klikit forums, and I can share the info with you. 
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kona0197
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| Set wrote: | | kona0197 wrote: | Dave - those problems I had way back were related to Xandros not Windows.
I haven't installed Linux on here yet because the rig is under warranty. Installing Linux would void that warranty.
That and Wine can't play my Command and Conquer.
I still have a few friends here so that's another reason I hang out.
I'm sick of arguing let's just live and let live OK?
A question for Set: If dual core doesn't matter why is it my machine is so slow even with 2 gigs of high speed ram and a single core Celeron 420? |
Because older Celeron is a slow cpu. Try using an AMD 3500+ (or better), or even a Pentium M or Pentium 4 from 2.0 ghz and up. Doesn't have anything to do with if it's a dual or single core to do
//Set |
The Celeron 420 is not that old. This computer is less than a month old.
After some research I found out that my Celeron was made on June 3, 2007.
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glussier
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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The Celeron 420 is not that old. This computer is less than a month old.
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Set, probably doesn't know the the 420 is a single core based on core2 architecture.
And, for the "so slow comment", your problem is more the Intel graphics than the speed of the cpu in itself. |
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kona0197
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Yeah as soon as I put a graphics card in here I'm sure things will get better.
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Monster_user
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| wshillington wrote: | Hi:
Since this seems to be a discussion on Vista I have a question. I have been thinking about building a computer. I will set it up to dual boot. For the Windows side I can use Win XP which. while very good, is an old OS. Anyone have a clear idea of what additional benefits Vista has compared with XP?
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Bryce |
Lets see.
Vista has the Aero Glass Interface, which has moved everything to be easier to use. DirectX 10,...
Vista has a searchable Start Menu feature, which can search the entire computer for documents, or programs, and launch them. A very nifty feature.
Better Hibernation support.
If you get Vista, your going to want to buy a PC with Vista pre-installed. Driver support is a serious issue with Upgrade versions. My USB 2.0 ports, have become USB 1.0 ports.
Also, Vista has this annoying habit of asking if you want to "Continue". It does it quite often. Change the time "Continue?", Change the Wallpaper "Continue?", Change the Screen Resolution "Continue?", burn a CD "Continue?". Blah, Blah, Blah... You get the picture.
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kona0197
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"Also, Vista has this annoying habit of asking if you want to "Continue". It does it quite often. Change the time "Continue?", Change the Wallpaper "Continue?", Change the Screen Resolution "Continue?", burn a CD "Continue?". Blah, Blah, Blah... You get the picture."
You can turn that off within the Control Panel.
You might be stretching the truth a bit though. My setup never asks me to continue when changing time, wallpaper, resolution or burning a CD. It only asks when I get into changing a security feature.
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Set
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Compare the FSB and cache for the Celeron 420 and other non-bugdet cpu's.
I can't believe I'm wasting more time on kona kona. heh.
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