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fdavila
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: how can i have the apple like task bar? Reply with quote

anybody have that nice zoom in and out of apple task bar? if so can you please tell me how to go and have in my X4.1? I will appreciated.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a link to a deb file for kooldock. I have used it in other distros, but haven't had any luck getting it to run in Xandros. Maybe someone else can help you to get it to work.......maybe.

http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=187558&use_mirror=easynews&filename=kooldock_0.4.6_i386.deb&25278721

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edit: I figured out what I needed to do to make a DEB file, and have done so. I will post a link to it shortly, then you can just download it and install it with Xandros Networks.

It will work on Xandros 4. I was able to compile and install it. I attempted to use checkinstall to build a DEB of it, but it was unable to build the DEB file. I downloaded kooldock-0.4.7.tar.bz2 from this page:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=187558

I opened a console, navigated to the folder where I had saved the download, and at the command line, typed:

./configure

and pressed Enter. The configure went fine. I then typed

make

and pressed Enter. The make process also went fine. Then I used su and entered the root/admin password to change to root and typed

checkinstall

and pressed Enter. It was able to do the install, but not build the DEB package, so I won't be able to provide a DEB package for kooldock. Since checkinstall can't build a DEB package from this after you do the ./configure and make commands and su to root, just type:

make install

and press Enter. It will install kooldock and start it. This gave me two toolbars, since I already had kicker running, so I pressed Ctrl-Alt-Delete and started the process manager, scrolled down to kicker, clicked on it, and clicked the Kill button. Kicker went away, and the kooldock bar works fine.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the link to the kooldock DEB:

http://allynelectronics.com/debs/kooldock-0.4.7-1X4_i386.deb

Just download it and save it wherever you like on your hard drive. Start Xandros Networks, click File, Install DEB File, and navigate to wherever you saved the DEB. Double click it, and away you go.

Enjoy.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimallyn, i downloaded the file and double clicked, which is the last post about "...double click and away you go." but i don't see it, what am i doing wrong? sorry for asking too much.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it install when you double clicked it in Xandros Networks? Did anything at all happen?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got it, installed with XN. Works just fine.

I read your steps to create the deb with interest. What did it take to complete the process. I have always considered that to be advanced linux guru voodoo stuff. You make it sound simple. i.e. doable by uber noob (me).

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

onsa1 wrote:
What did it take to complete the process.


When checkinstall tried to create the DEB file, I got an error message to the effect that there were no version numbers in the original, and therefore it couldn't make a DEB. It turns out all I had to do was rename the folder extracted from the tar file from kooldock, to kooldock-0.4.7, and it worked!

onsa1 wrote:
I have always considered that to be advanced linux guru voodoo stuff.


Well, doing it correctly is still guru voodoo stuff to me! I use checkinstall to build the DEBs, and it doesn't do any dependency resolution or anything like that. For example, I built a DEB of Rosegarden. Rosegarden requires that dssi be installed, and with a proper DEB package, it would have that information in it and would automatically install dssi. But DEBs built with checkinstall don't have that feature, so you just have to know what else needs to be installed, and install them manually. Someday I'll learn how to do it the right way.

onsa1 wrote:
You make it sound simple. i.e. doable by uber noob (me).


Well, some of them are quite simple. I've managed to do all these:

http://www.allynelectronics.com/debs/

You just do (in the folder you've extracted the tar archive in):

./configure
make

Then log in as root and do:

make install

Or, if you want to make a DEB package, use:

checkinstall

instead of make install. I usually do want to make a DEB of it, because that makes it much easier to uninstall it (with XN or Synaptic) if necessary.

Sometimes when you do the ./configure step or the make step, you'll get a message that you need to have something else installed. If you're lucky, you can just install it from XN. If you're not lucky, you'll have to build that from source, too.

For whatever reason, checkinstall builds DEBS with the version number in the package name twice. For example, the kooldock package came out something like kooldock-0.4.7-0.4.7-1. I always edit the name so that it only has the version number in it once, it has the Xandros version number in it, and it has the architecture in it:

kooldock-0.4.7-1X4_i386.deb

If you want to learn how to do it right, read the Debian New Maintainer's Guide, which can be downloaded here:

http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#maint-guide

I have it, and have read it, but haven't actually built any by the procedure yet.

There's also a lot of information on these forums about building from source and making DEB packages. I have found a couple of aldube's tutorials very useful.

When I first started building DEBS, I found that there were a lot of them that I couldn't finish the process for one reason or another. But now I'm starting to understand what the error messages mean, and my success rate is higher.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about KxDocker? It is almost a clone of the OSx dock.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monster_user wrote:
What about KxDocker?


According to this page:

http://www.xiaprojects.com/index.php?section=All&project=KXDocker

Quote:
This is a DISCONTINUED and OBSOLETE project


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim,
when i double clicked it on XN at the end it reads "Done" meaning that it was installed but i don't see anything, was it supposed to be on the desktop? i mean the taskbar, do i need another package to make iit work. on more thing i am using the trial 4.1 prof. since i want to see how it works and if i like it, hope this tell you something. But i would like to see it. I appreciate your time w/this newbe. i am saving all the questions i make on the forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I did the install, it started up automatically, but maybe that's because I did the compile and install from the command line.

Hit Alt F2 to bring up the Run Command box and enter kooldock in the Command: box, and click Run. kooldock should start up in a few seconds. The first time I ran it, I got a control panel to set it up, but I didn't change anything from the defaults since I don't think I'll be using kooldock myself. If kooldock comes up, you'll probably want to kill the other toolbar; you can do that by bringing up the Run Command box with Alt F2 again and entering killall kicker. If that works for you and you decide you want to always use kooldock, we can probably come up with a script that will be run on startup that will automatically kill kicker and start kooldock.

If that doesn't make it start up, let me know and I'll (hopefully) come up with something else!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Jim,
Nice very nice, but i would like to configure it or add more app. where can i learn how to add those? i tried but it was asking me for a path, whcih i don't know how to do it, i wanted to add my OO found an icon but don't know how to do the path. also, yes, i woiuld like to have the kooldock always there, so if you may tell me how to, as well.
Jim, thanks, a lot now my daughter is very happy w/it. just tell me please how to add other apps.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jim,
when i logged out i checked the save session box, and when i logged in the kooldock did not open and i got a box that reads (...kooldock crashed..) and i got this hope it tells you something.
(no debugging symbols found)
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1".
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[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread -1230972992 (LWP 25281)]
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[KCrash handler]
#3 0x0805eea7 in QBitmap::~QBitmap ()
#4 0x08061fef in QBitmap::~QBitmap ()
#5 0x08060c7f in QBitmap::~QBitmap ()
#6 0x0806a8aa in QBitmap::~QBitmap ()
#7 0x08057d34 in QBitmap::~QBitmap ()
#8 0x0806dac2 in QMemArray<char>::detach ()
#9 0xb6a52974 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#10 0x08053441 in ?? ()

i copied it from the box i saw, maybe it did not like the save session thing, and may be your way will be better. let me know what i can do.
Well, i unistalled it and installed it bk and now it crashes every time, let me know what i can do, maybe i need some package that i ma missing, remember i have the free trial of xn prof 4.1
thanks,
fabio
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim,
on my daughter's account i did not click the save session and every time i do what you said on the Alt+F2 it works but if i do what i did in my account i bet it would then crash. so in her's it works but i have to be entering the F2, how do i fix mine and do it your way? oh! and when i log out of my daughter's account i close Exit the kooldock since i have the save session box checked because i have some other gadgets working for her. i am sorry, Jim for giving you so much trouble, all i can say is thanks, for your help.
found out somthing else, on another account i configured it and when i re-opened it the kooldock crashed, so i can see that if i config. then it does not work, but my daughter's still works.
Fabio.


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