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sellib
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sqlpython wrote:
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Well thanks for help. Will tech support help if I am using trial?

They may try.
But wait my contact Dev at OSS says to try the .tar file with Xandros..
Dev says:
Quote:

If you use the tar-ball installation, there is no dependancices but
certain GUI apps may or may not work.
regards
Dev Mazumdar


Which would be Linux 2.6 (x86).TAR
which is OSS v4.0
The version includes a High Def driver hdaudio which supports hd nvidia
This would be downloaded & then copied into the " /" dir
You can do this is a console as root with the su command or with the XandrosFileManager in Admin Mode /Launch/Applications/SYstem/Admin Tools/XFileManager (Admin)

Tar package How To OSS

Then Open a Console as
su
password

cd /
tar –jxvf oss-linux-v4.0-123-i386.tar.bz2
sh /usr/lib/oss/build/install.sh

2. You will have to reboot the system if
OSS replaced any driver previously
detected.

3. To test that the audio package is
correctly installed type: osstest and you
should hear the test sounds on the front
left, right and both speakers. Now log
out of the console session

No guarantees but this is a new install so Nothing to lose..
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This just doesnt want to work out at all. I get the following error when I do the sh /usr/.....

Quote:

modinfo: could not find module ext3

OSS build environment set up for NOREGPARM kernels


Warning: Cannot locate the Linux kernel development package for
Linux kernel version 2.6.18-dcc-smp
Please install the kernel development package if linking the
OSS modules fails.

The kernel development package may be called kernel-devel, kernel-smp-devel,
kernel-sources, kernel-headers or something like that. Please refer
to the documentation of your Linux distribution if there are any
difficulties in installing the kernel/driver development environment.

For your Linux distribution the right kernel source package
might be kernel-source.

Building module osscore
Failed to compile OSS
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.18-dcc-smp/build M=/usr/lib/oss/build modules
make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.18-dcc-smp/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
make: *** [default] Error 2


I tried installing something related to gcc and also tried installing "kernel-source 2.6.18"
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The packa ge wants kernel headers
You would need this item Installed from XandrosNetworks
2.6.18-smp kernel headers

I always have them installed for work and should have remembered to mention them.
Sorry..
looks like you have the gcc (C compiler) there unless you got an error message stating it could not find it.. it is also on XandrosNetworks if you need it.

Like I said in an earlier post your nvidia hd chip is a more recent development and Xandros being a very Stable Distro is a step behind the bleeding edge hardware. Reason being testing new stuff, I suppose.

So, with the header files in place and the gcc to compile you can try once again..
Too bad this is more difficult then it should be sometimes a piece of hardware will be difficult if new..
Try with those headers and see if it makes it ,,If not then the only solution is a Distro Compiled to accept the OSS ver 5 .deb which did install.
One such distro is Ubuntu's latest release..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sqlpython wrote:
The packa ge wants kernel headers
You would need this item Installed from XandrosNetworks
2.6.18-smp kernel headers

I always have them installed for work and should have remembered to mention them.
Sorry..
looks like you have the gcc (C compiler) there unless you got an error message stating it could not find it.. it is also on XandrosNetworks if you need it.

Like I said in an earlier post your nvidia hd chip is a more recent development and Xandros being a very Stable Distro is a step behind the bleeding edge hardware. Reason being testing new stuff, I suppose.

So, with the header files in place and the gcc to compile you can try once again..
Too bad this is more difficult then it should be sometimes a piece of hardware will be difficult if new..
Try with those headers and see if it makes it ,,If not then the only solution is a Distro Compiled to accept the OSS ver 5 .deb which did install.
One such distro is Ubuntu's latest release..


Well here is the output from the sh command:

Quote:

sellib-laptop:/# sh /usr/lib/oss/build/install.sh
modinfo: could not find module ext3

OSS build environment set up for NOREGPARM kernels

Building module osscore
Building module ali5455
Building module allegro
Building module als300
Building module als4000
Building module apci97
Building module atiaudio
Building module audigyls
Building module audioloop
Building module audiopci
Building module cmi8788
Building module cmpci
Building module cs4280
Building module cs4281
Building module digi32
Building module digi96
Building module emu10k1x
Building module envy24ht
Building module envy24
Building module fm801
Building module geode
Building module hdaudio
Building module hdsp
Building module ich
Building module imux
Building module lynxone
Building module lynxtwo
Building module maestro
Building module neomagic
Building module ossusb
Building module riptide
Building module s3vibes
Building module sblive
Building module softoss
Building module solo
Building module sonorus
Building module trident
Building module via8233
Building module via97
Building module vmix
Building module vortex
Building module ymf7xx
depmod -a
-----------------------------
Detected Nvidia High Definition Audio (MCP51)
Detected Generic USB audio/MIDI device (BETA)
Detected OSS Transparent Virtual Mixing Architecture
-----------------------------


Not sure how serious the ext3 thing is... but am about to reboot. Wish me luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So upon rebooting, still no sound.

KMIX still not working properly.

Went into Sound System to play with "select audio device". If I select ALSA, I get the following dialog:

Quote:

Sound server informational message:
Error while initializing the sound driver:
device: default can't be opened for playback (No such device)
The sound server will continue, using the null output device.


If I select OSS, nothing seems to happen.

With regard to "Ubuntu's latest release", you referring to 7.04 beta(?) I think it is...?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not sure how serious the ext3 thing is... but am about to reboot. Wish me luck!


Hey sellib
Bump
Well either you are listing to streaming audio Or your machine caught fire Question

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just remembered about using osstest. Here is the output. Did not hear any sound:

Quote:

Sound subsystem and version: OSS 4.0 (build 1002/200704040114) (0x00040002)
Platform: Linux/i686 2.6.18-dcc-smp #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Oct 18 12:30:24 EDT 2006

*** Scanning sound adapter #-1 ***
/dev/oss/hdaudio0/pcm0 (audio engine 0): nVidia HD Audio play output
- Performing audio playback test...
<left> OK <right> OK <stereo> OK <measured>
/dev/oss/hdaudio0/spdout0 (audio engine 1): nVidia HD Audio digital-out output
- Performing audio playback test...
<left> OK <right> OK <stereo> OK <measured>
/dev/oss/hdaudio0/pcmin0 (audio engine 2): nVidia HD Audio rec input
- Skipping input only device
/dev/oss/hdaudio0/spdin0 (audio engine 3): nVidia HD Audio digital-in input
- Skipping input only device

*** All tests completed OK ***


Sure seems like I'm missing something here... is there an oss mixer tool?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When using OSS drivers, one sometimes has to offer permissions to the user account... Try logging in as root and seeing if you have sound in that account..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redrum wrote:
When using OSS drivers, one sometimes has to offer permissions to the user account... Try logging in as root and seeing if you have sound in that account..


Is that different than logging in as a user and running the Root Console? That's what I've been doing for all of this. So even the osstest was under root console.

Or do I login to the very first login screen as...? Root? with the root password?

Not clear on that.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would have to actually log into the root account, then try something that involves sound.. As a user, you want to type groups and make sure your user is part of the audio group..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not clear on that.


I think you are referring to the in console install and
redrum is referring to logging in as root to Try out the OSS install for sound..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try to run
osstest
from a console
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While being logged into the root gui account..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With regard to "Ubuntu's latest release", you referring to 7.04 beta(?) I think it is...?


Dev, at OSS says that the .deb was compiled for the Ubuntu 6.xx series
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ubuntu package will definitely not work, because Ubuntu uses a different kernel then Xandros does... You have to use the generic installer..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Ubuntu package will definitely not work,


You are of course correct..
sellib, has already tried that and found that out by application..
The package is not labled Ubuntu simply Linux 2.6 (x86).deb...
but Dev says it was compiled to work with Ubuntu 6.xx and Debian Stable..
I guess our kernel deviates from that standard..?

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