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Riktar · Xplorer Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Neosho, WI

Now that SP1 has webcam support for Kopete I want to try and hook up a webcam for IM stuff.

I am trying a supposedly Linux (2.6.11Kernel or later) compatible webcam with nothing more than Black screen results. The system sees it and the light comes on when I access it in Kopete but that is all it's doing.

So I thought I would ask all the folks who have working webcams to reply to this thread and say what make AND MODEL of webcam you have that works out of the box.

I can tell you that the Connectland USB "Golfball" webcam does not work out-of-the-box in 4.0 SP1

woodsmoke · Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject:

HI

don't know as we've visited before, if not let me give you a big howdy to the friendliest forum on the net.. really!

A lot of cameras don't need a "driver" as such...

If you would, go to Xandros networks and in the search bar type in "camstream" and install it. You MIGHT have to reboot, but usually linux does not need that. you should see camstream installed as an app under graphics, I can't remember, I'm at work on a windblows machine... but anyway, camstream usually does most of the cameras... try it and come back and give a holler

you have to go to the top left and click one of the two commands, can't remember which, and an interactive box pops up, pick the top setting first, you can always go back and try the others, and the picture should show up in a large gray patterned box..

again, welcome!

ain't XAndros grEAT!
woodsmoke
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Riktar · Xplorer Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Neosho, WI

Howdy Woodsmoke,
Thank you for (again) the welcome. We had a prior exchange about the networking and security suite in 4.0. But it's always great to hear from you.

I did load Camstreams but it is still the same/similar thing. As soon as I try to load the camera I am greeted with a blank window in the viewer and the Camstream freezes up.

The system does see the camera. As a matter of fact the light on the camera comes on when I try to access it. Ubfortunately that's as far as it gets.

So I thought I would hear from other forum members what kind of hardware they are using in the webcam department and go from there.

redrum · Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:05 am Post subject:

I have a Creative Webcam III that has worked flawlessly since RedHat 8. I bought it then off pricewatch for something like 27 bucks (bulk model- who needs documentation when it isn't applicable, right). Uses the OV511 driver. 640x480 Resolution. Bandwidth hog though, no compression.. Make sure you are using USB2, as it chuggs on USB1... Otherwise, highly recommended.. Mic is a seperate generic computer mic... Eliminates Camera / Sound card fighting for /dev/dsp.
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Riktar · Xplorer Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Neosho, WI

Thanks redrum. That is exactly the kind of info I am looking for! That model camera is now on the top of my list.

Anybody else?

By the by redrum and Woodsmoke: Your animations are simply hysterical! I get a grin/smile going everytime I see them!

Riktar · Xplorer Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Neosho, WI

Well I have done some digging into why my "Golfball" webcam doesn't work. I went to this website:

http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html

To save alot of scrolling I will paste my camera info below:
Name.....Vendor ID......Product ID.....Pseudo.....Bridge........Sensor
Sangha.....0x0c45..........0x60c0........Sn-535.....sn9c105.....Mi0360

So anyway it is supposed to work. But as we all know,,,,,,,,

I checked the Spca5xx module on the same site and found that the one used by Xandros is for kernels below 2.6.11. The latest one they list is for all kernels above that. Just so you all know I have the 2.6.18 kernel in per the SP1 update to 4.0. I have tried the SMP (deault) and changed to the UNI kernel just to rule out that.

I would hazard a guess that Xandros has modified their version of the driver/module which is why they are using an "old" version.

So I downloaded the newest module which is in tar.gz format.

I can't find any info on the site about how to update the module in Xandros. Can someone point me to a site that outlines how to blow-up, er, break, ah, I mean "update" my system?

I'm sure I am missing something really obvious (As usual) but that seems to be my best bet to try and get my existing webcam working rather than just forking out more cash.

redrum · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject:

If your webcam uses the spca5xx driver, I'd check this article. I made a driver that works with that driver that may or may not work with your system.

http://forums.xandros.com/viewtopic.php?t=28267

Although my driver should uninstall it automatically, you will want to make sure to uninstall the old driver first, .
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Riktar · Xplorer Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Neosho, WI

Hey redrum,
I tried the link and followed the instuctions. Unfortunately I am still stuck with the same black screen. Is the version of Spca5xx the latest build in your driver?

No matter what, thanks for the effort. I'll keep digging on my end.

redrum · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:31 am Post subject:

Please type lsmod and post the output. Let's make sure the driver loaded. The spca5xx driver is no longer used in the later codebase. The driver I built is the latest version. Also a reboot may be necessary to load the driver.
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Riktar · Xplorer Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Neosho, WI

Here is what I got from (I am assuming to do it after logging on as "su") the lsmod command:
Module Size Used by
nls_iso8859_1 5248 0
nls_cp437 6912 0
vfat 13696 0
fat 38172 1 vfat
isofs 35648 0
zlib_inflate 14848 1 isofs
wacom 16640 0
mga 64768 2
drm 75800 3 mga
iptable_nat 8580 0
ip_nat 19116 1 iptable_nat
iptable_filter 4224 1
ip_tables 15220 2 iptable_nat,iptable_filter
ip_conntrack 49600 2 iptable_nat,ip_nat
nfnetlink 8088 2 ip_nat,ip_conntrack
x_tables 15236 2 iptable_nat,ip_tables
speedstep_lib 7172 0
freq_table 6560 0
video 18052 0
container 5760 0
sbs 16168 0
fan 6148 0
button 7952 0
sony_acpi 8208 0
backlight 7040 1 sony_acpi
i2c_ec 6272 1 sbs
thermal 15624 0
processor 34760 1 thermal
asus_acpi 17432 0
af_packet 23304 2
snd_usb_audio 77952 2
gspca 602768 0
videodev 25472 1 gspca
snd_usb_lib 16896 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi 24704 1 snd_usb_lib
snd_seq_device 8972 1 snd_rawmidi
snd_hwdep 10372 1 snd_usb_audio
v4l1_compat 14596 1 videodev
v4l2_common 22400 1 videodev
uhci_hcd 23820 0
usbcore 122628 6 wacom,snd_usb_audio,gspca,snd_usb_lib,uhci_hcd
orinoco_cs 17668 1
orinoco 40340 1 orinoco_cs
hermes 8320 2 orinoco_cs,orinoco
pcmcia 37692 3 orinoco_cs
firmware_class 11136 1 pcmcia
floppy 58788 0
ide_floppy 19200 0
sg 31516 0
sr_mod 17828 0
ide_cd 40964 2
cdrom 39200 2 sr_mod,ide_cd
raid10 24960 0
raid456 120848 0
xor 15624 1 raid456
raid1 23808 0
raid0 9728 0
md_mod 76948 4 raid10,raid456,raid1,raid0
dm_mirror 23248 0
yenta_socket 27020 4
rsrc_nonstatic 13440 1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core 41240 4 orinoco_cs,pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
tulip 50592 0
snd_intel8x0 32540 2
snd_ac97_codec 89636 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_bus 3456 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss 43520 0
snd_mixer_oss 17280 3 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 75140 4 snd_usb_audio,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pc
m_oss
snd_timer 23940 1 snd_pcm
snd 53252 14 snd_usb_audio,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hw
dep,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 11104 3 snd
snd_page_alloc 11144 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
i2c_i801 8716 0
i2c_core 22272 2 i2c_ec,i2c_i801
shpchp 37540 0
pci_hotplug 33352 1 shpchp
intel_agp 23836 1
agpgart 34892 2 drm,intel_agp
tsdev 8768 0
psmouse 38024 0
evdev 10752 0
fuse 43668 0
lp 13448 0
parport_pc 35012 1
parport 36040 2 lp,parport_pc
autofs4 22148 3
pppoe 15424 0
pppox 5128 1 pppoe
ppp_synctty 11264 0
ppp_async 12672 0
crc_ccitt 3328 1 ppp_async
ppp_generic 28820 4 pppoe,pppox,ppp_synctty,ppp_async
slhc 7680 1 ppp_generic
8250_pnp 10112 0
8250_pci 21376 0
8250 24356 2 8250_pnp,8250_pci
serial_core 21248 1 8250
dm_mod 57752 1 dm_mirror
ide_disk 16768 3
generic 6276 0 [permanent]
piix 11524 0 [permanent]
reiserfs 239604 1
sd_mod 20352 0
scsi_mod 95240 3 sg,sr_mod,sd_mod
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By the by, webcam is the ONLY thing plugged into my USB port(s).

redrum · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject:

It looks like the driver is loaded properly, so it may be a specific issue with your camera (chipset revision or something like that) and the driver.. You may wish to contact the developer regarding this issue.. Unfortunately my specialty is packaging drivers, not debugging / configuring them... You also may need to use spcatools, though in the case of the logitech cam, nothing extra was needed, so I doubt it. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful Sad

If you manage to get a patched driver, I'd be happy to build it for you.
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Guy Wilson · Xplorer Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 12

I use a Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX - seemed to work out of the box with X$ and Camstream.

Guy