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blayne
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| Yeah, the no pricing thing seemed weird to me too. Weird enough that I didn't pre-order. I don't like signing up to buy anything without knowing what it costs. I assume pricing will be in line with past versions. But then again, you might get an order saying they shipped your software and, "we're gonna need about tree fitty." |
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jimwilk
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I saw the upgrade prices mentioned in the post. From Deluxe 3.0 to Home Premium was mentioned as about $60
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thecdn
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I must have had a harder day at work than I thought. I can't make any sense out of the upgrade pricing popup for existing owners.
Am I correct in thinking that as I have xandros 3 deluxe with a premium membership that I would be paying $51.95 for x4 premium edition?
Is there any place with the specifics out yet? What's included? What version of kde and the pgms? |
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Amfortas
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While I'm pleased with the news, there isn't any mention of upgrade pricing for those of us using the Business version. Also, it'd be nice to know the difference in both upcoming versions...
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Arne Anka
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Amfortas wrote: | | While I'm pleased with the news, there isn't any mention of upgrade pricing for those of us using the Business version. |
That's because there is no Business Edition to upgrade to. According to Matty, you can expect BE late summer/early fall this year. If you want the Home Edition, it mean you have to downgrade. For downgrade prices from BE to Home or Home Premium you probably have to contact Xandros sales at present time.
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Am I correct in thinking that as I have xandros 3 deluxe with a premium membership that I would be paying $51.95 for x4 premium edition? |
That's correct. |
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Davepet
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| Quote: | | That's because there is no Business Edition to upgrade to. |
*Yawn* not too exciting then. I'll just sit here & try to figure out what everyone's talking about until BE 4 comes out.
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ninjablogger
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Agreed. The BE is the one I'd be interested in. But at least v4 is finally on it's way. 
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david wrigley
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Davepet wrote
| Quote: | | *Yawn* not too exciting then. I'll just sit here & try to figure out what everyone's talking about until BE 4 comes out |
I suppose you could go for the home premium edition and then upgrade to the business edition from this. At least it will give you a flavor of xandros 4 and I'd be surprised if you lost out much financially. I'm trying to remember what the upgrade price was from delux 3 to BE3 and I think it was really low - I got an e-mail about it at the time and I seem to remember that it was roughly the cost of Star office 8 which of course wasn't included in the delux version but was in the BE version and this seemed a good deal. Just a thought.
My credit card is at the ready! Hope the upgrade price includes a hardcopy of the manual. |
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blayne
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| david wrigley wrote: |
Hope the upgrade price includes a hardcopy of the manual.
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I hope X4 has a PDF of the manual.
The Xandros online help could use some work. The printed manual has some good information, but the index is iffy. The few times I tried to use it, I couldn't find what I wanted very quickly or easily. A PDF of the Xandros manual would be with me all the time (even if my notebook is traveling with me), and I could at least use the Acrobat search feature to find the stuff I need if the index wasn't useable. And there would be no dead trees needed to make a PDF version.
I use Open Office for all my documents, and exporting a PDF for distribution seems second nature to me. If I was writing a user manual for an entire operating system, I'd certainly make a PDF. |
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XandrosAdminAJ
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Put the pdf suggestion into "suggestions"!
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blayne
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I suggested the PDF version of the Xandros manual directly to Xandros customer support, after each of the last two versions. I don't know why they've been unwilling or unable to do that. I know they're busy, but it would add a lot of utility to customers and it probably isn't that difficult, depending on which application they used to write the manual.
I'll keep asking. Maybe more people asking for a PDF manual would get their attention and move it up the long list of priorities. |
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carbon_unit
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I'm sure Adobe would want some fees for a mass distributed document like that.
It is not that it is hard to do but probably more of the fee situation.
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dglock
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| carbon_unit wrote: | I'm sure Adobe would want some fees for a mass distributed document like that.
It is not that it is hard to do but probably more of the fee situation. |
I don't think that is the problem, since once you buy the adobe program there is no limit to the number of docs you can publish.
It may be that xandros doesn't want to pay for the software!
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blayne
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It's my understanding that Adobe makes money by selling applications that are used to create PDF files, and they give away the Acrobat reader for free to encourage everyone to adopt the PDF as a de facto standard.
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/adobepdf.html
I've never heard of Adobe charging a licensing fee of any sort for documents distributed via the PDF format, regardless of the number of copies of the document that are in use. I did a very brief search, and found no references to the PDF being unencumbered by distribution licenses, but I also found no references describing any such licenses.
If you're "sure Adobe would want some fees for a mass distributed document like that", could you provide a link?
Charging people for their own documents seems extremely weasely to me, and doesn't sound like something Adobe would even attempt, and even if they did, it doesn't sound like something the industry would allow. |
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XandrosAdminAJ
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Adobe sells only one of many programs to make pdfs. There is no need to pay them royalites.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pdf
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