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formlessv
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:50 am    Post subject: How do I recover dpkg? Reply with quote

I uninstalled it and don't know how to recover it from the disaster. Please help !
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems in the past I remember reading to issue a "dselect update" for a corrupt dpkg
But for an uninstalled dpkg
Read here..
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/apt.txt
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's too late now, and good thing is that I found the XN is not trust worthy like MS Windows Update Manager

I will leave Xandros for the time being unless this desktop OS become Open Source and not go back to MS either.

My experience told me that we have to be be careful with using the computer operating system. It can be hacked or manipulated at any time if one is not using Open Source

I now understand why Wikipedia is so popular
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's too late now, and good thing is that I found the XN is not trust worthy like MS Windows Update Manager


If you have the time I could tell you some real Horrow stories about Windows Update manager. Let's not even talk about how invasive it ca be regarding your
Computer private information.... Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="formlessv"]It's too late now, and good thing is that I found the XN is not trust worthy like MS Windows Update Manager[/quote]

How did you find this out? Plenty of other people are quite surprised because they find it very trustworthy. It has always done exactly what I've asked it to do.

What were you doing that caused you not to 'trust' it? Really. Otherwise, I can only conclude that you believe that your system is screwed up, and of course, through no action or lack of action whatsoeever on your part, and are just scapegoating XN to hide your ignorance and/or embarassment.

Don't be like the guy who won't ask for directions when he is clearly lost. Tell us what you were trying to do, what you think/remember you did, what you told XN to do and why you think it didn't do exactly as you asked/configured it to do, and why you think it is "untrustworthy".
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will say that I did have XN do something I did not want today- this when installing a local deb file. When doing that, it does not give any indication of the changes it is going to make- it just starts, and you see the "removing" messages flash by.
For me it wasn't a huge deal- I didn't break anything, but it would be nice for it to give warning before it does that.
I'm not sure if the command line dpkg -i would give warning or not.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you have the time I could tell you some real Horrow stories about Windows Update manager. Let's not even talk about how invasive it ca be regarding your
Computer private information.... Sad


I would encourage you to speak out like me. My gut feeling is that politics has been going to democracy for a century by now. Economics and technology should follow up too. If there is no guarantors aloing with the reform of the world, there is no real political democracy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I will say that I did have XN do something I did not want today- this when installing a local deb file. When doing that, it does not give any indication of the changes it is going to make- it just starts, and you see the "removing" messages flash by.
For me it wasn't a huge deal- I didn't break anything, but it would be nice for it to give warning before it does that.
I'm not sure if the command line dpkg -i would give warning or not.


People's quess is correct and my system is screwed up by the hackers

That's why I'm doing some sort of validation of the system using my own invented method. The reason that I did uninstallation of dpkg is that I found that internal fact sheet doesn't match out the external fact sheet at

http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/dpkg

and I doubt if there is something wrong with it. Have a look at my other post about validation of the OS, packages and softwares among which OS is the most critical issue to concern
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

formlessv

I sincerely don't intend to be critical but your answer doesn't make complete sense to me...
Kind of a Lewis Carroll type answer..Smile

Are we still talking computers here?

Worst comes to worst reinstall the OS and then use your backup to update.

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My gut feeling is that politics has been going to democracy for a century by now.

?? As opposed to what Theocracy or Monarchy or..dictatorship..or...Confusing..Question


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Economics and technology should follow up too. If there is no guarantors aloing with the reform of the world, there is no real political democracy



Who do you want to guarantee what?
Guarantee the workability of an OS..?

All we have here are a nice bunch of packages working in logical procedural Programmed enviroment held together by a network of people. Hopefully preforming wanted/needed functions for the people willing to participate. It's just computer science.

Bear with it I am sure your reinstall will sort it out for you and although irritating once your reinstall is running a few weeks this will be just minor incident.

Just think if this was Windows you would be doing regular reinstalls just to rid yourself of MalWare or your System would grind to a halt..
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When doing that, it does not give any indication of the changes it is going to make- it just starts, and you see the "removing" messages flash by.


If you click the "details" button before you start the install process, XN will tell you what it's going to do. I agree it would be nice if that info was more in your face automatically.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Davepet"]
If you click the "details" button before you start the install process, XN will tell you what it's going to do. I agree it would be nice if that info was more in your face automatically.

Dave[/quote]

Yabut- if you are installing a deb file, it doesn't give you the chance- you choose the file, and as soon as you have chosen it, it starts the install.
Of course, the only hacker who had access to my system was me Wink.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if you are installing a deb file, it doesn't give you the chance- you choose the file, and as soon as you have chosen it, it starts the install.


I see. I didn't know that because I always add debs to my local repository & install using apt or XN from there.

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